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    We have Shifu, so I can't see it mattering much.

    Also! I'll update the front page soon with the new thread showing stat importance and such. It's basically what we've said, in that you want to prioritize DH. Determination=Skillspeed until you hit about 1700 Crit at which point, Crit is better than both of them. Since we'll have the breakpoint for Crit over Det/SS with this gearset, you'll probably want to focus on just Crit/DH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    We have Shifu, so I can't see it mattering much.

    Also! I'll update the front page soon with the new thread showing stat importance and such. It's basically what we've said, in that you want to prioritize DH. Determination=Skillspeed until you hit about 1700 Crit at which point, Crit is better than both of them. Since we'll have the breakpoint for Crit over Det/SS with this gearset, you'll probably want to focus on just Crit/DH.
    Crit does not overtake Det till somewhere around 2.2k crit levels. SkSp trumps all stats but loses its gains in content that have large amounts of downtime from the boss. DH/Det are the safest you can be at the moment.
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    For me personally I meld Crit/DHR and Skill Speed. Why SS? it gives more dmg to Higanbana. Plus reduces GCD, that for SS> DET. If we had no DoT then yes Det would be better. Right now I sit @1328 SS. At least 1200 SS i good to have, that's just me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adriosh View Post
    Crit does not overtake Det till somewhere around 2.2k crit levels. SkSp trumps all stats but loses its gains in content that have large amounts of downtime from the boss. DH/Det are the safest you can be at the moment.
    i was talking to a few people who are Math nerds including myself, and i find this to be True, ATM ONLY classes that Crit is at its highest would be MNK , BRD , DRG, and i believe SCH. Pretty sure it should be DH>Det>Crit>SS or DH>Det>SS>crit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adriosh View Post
    Crit does not overtake Det till somewhere around 2.2k crit levels. SkSp trumps all stats but loses its gains in content that have large amounts of downtime from the boss. DH/Det are the safest you can be at the moment.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tats_compared/

    Edit: The claim that Crit would become better than both Det/SS at 1700 was regarding the 'derivative value', which does show crit being higher. However, apparently the meaningful breakpoint where it truly matters is closer to what you said (listed in the thread as 2312 Crit). And DH is king until (listed in thread as) Crit>2811.

    So, apologies for any confusions-
    DH is the stat you want to stack.
    Det is stacked unless you can hit a value of Crit that exceeds 2.2k(2.3k-ish seems to be the absolute number for it to be the god stat for all Jobs)<--- This number I'm sure will become more concrete in the future. If you can stack beyond the above value of Crit, it becomes a more worthwhile stat than Det/SS.
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