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    Feidam's Avatar
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    They shouldn't touch the shields. The reason you shield for less is because you have additional healing coming out from your pet that Nocturnal Stance doesn't have access to.
    You mean the pet that fires of embrace so we have a benefic 2 size heal when combined with phsycik or the Aoe regen to help bring people back up while succor absorbs damage that isn't even a complete hit anymore mean while you can spam Helios and aspected Helios while we have large cooldowns and massive mana costs. I'm not saying Ast shields need to be nerfed but they should not cost less and heal for more barring crit Aldo. If they want to leave our potencies where there are fine, but how about a mana fix a bit. Granted mana isn't usually an issue if people are not being stupid.

    After the changes on tues I do feel scholars are in better place. Hell I'd be happy if succor just had Aldo's crit aspect. Then it would be some give and take with the Ast shields.
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    inhaledcorn's Avatar
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    You mean the pet that fires of embrace so we have a benefic 2 size heal when combined with phsycik
    You mean like how a Regen with a Cure I is like a Cure II heal?
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    BloodPact's Avatar
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    Atemi'a Arecis
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    You mean the pet that fires of embrace so we have a benefic 2 size heal when combined with phsycik or the Aoe regen to help bring people back up while succor absorbs damage that isn't even a complete hit anymore mean while you can spam Helios and aspected Helios while we have large cooldowns and massive mana costs. I'm not saying Ast shields need to be nerfed but they should not cost less and heal for more barring crit Aldo. If they want to leave our potencies where there are fine, but how about a mana fix a bit. Granted mana isn't usually an issue if people are not being stupid.

    After the changes on tues I do feel scholars are in better place. Hell I'd be happy if succor just had Aldo's crit aspect. Then it would be some give and take with the Ast shields.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't have "large cooldowns". You have superb abilities under Aetherflow that just got lowered to 3 every 45 seconds. That's you main "cooldown". You have a COMPLETELY SEPARATE entity that doesn't expire which is a 100% uptime, MP free regen, and it can use its abilities totally outside of your own GCDs and oGCDs (e.g. it can use Whispering Dawn while you cast Physick (GCD) or use Energy Drain (oGCD)). No ever mentions that plus. The MP increase for your spells is also fine. Learn to live with it. For 4 YEARS Scholars were basically laughing at WHM because MP for Scholar used to be "just a pink bar in my user interface that I don't know what it's for". Adlo and Succor aren't mean to be spammed. Those days for Scholar are gone. It did need help in 4.0. It is perfectly fine now.
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    Alisi's Avatar
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    Tempest Deep
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    You have a COMPLETELY SEPARATE entity that doesn't expire which is a 100% uptime, MP free regen, and it can use its abilities totally outside of your own GCDs and oGCDs (e.g. it can use Whispering Dawn while you cast Physick (GCD) or use Energy Drain (oGCD)).
    Fairies can die. LOL. And they nerfed embrace into the ground. WD is nice but it's tied to the fairy. GL getting it off if the party needs healing AND it has a CD. So, no, WD isn't up 100%. The fairies will try to embrace everyone up first so you have a 50/50 chance of getting it off when you need it. But precasting it takes care of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    The MP increase for your spells is also fine. Learn to live with it.
    LOL. You know Astro is going to come out of this with their MP costs as they are? Scholar is the forerunner here. They are testing the MP costs on Scholars first. This is the way every, single shield based healing class goes. Astro's are going to be in for a rude awakening if you honestly think this will just be us. So you gloat and feel superior while you can. Then the old good Astro's will be the Scholars who know how to deal with the MP costs...
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