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  1. #201
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    Primula Solheim
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    Since 1.18 it was easy to see this coming, but I am still a little disappointed. I feel like they are ignoring and/or mucking up the THM and CNJ lore with this. Yes, I know, the job is not the class, and neither mage really fits WHM or BLM perfectly, but I feel it would have fit so much better the other way around. Pretty much what Wynn is explaining so well.

    But I don't think this will be changed, so if this is the path they are taking, I have to say: please give THM more nukes! Elemental nukes just look so much neater than Scourge/Banish/Shadowsear -- I'd prefer to kill things with fire, not blobby dark spots.
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  2. #202
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    here's my 2cent...

    I couldnt care less since i have both classes maxed out, lol.
    Id suggest the simple way and level both while you still can.
    Congratulation, you win the prize for most selfish comment in the Forum. Try thinking about the New Players who are the only hope of this game surviving. I'm pretty sure they want there chosen Class' back story to make sense..
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  3. #203
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Well now we're just arguing semantics, unless you really believe some big nasty raptor is going to knock you out instead of just eat you.
    It doesnt alter the fact that the status is KO, and the message I believe says you were knocked out, also the status for dying/getting knocked out while your weakened is called Brink of Death, in other words you are about to die, not you have been killed and brought back to life 2 times.

    Raise =/= necromancy and it is in the lore of the game that the thurmaturges atleast experiment with necromancy which makes them dark mages or in FF terms black mages.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    Oh sorry, lol ... wasnt actually meant @ anyone besides the thread title i guess. :P
    Oh, I didn't think you meant directly to me, I was just thinking maybe you were right.

    I decided to wait for the announcement though. I could be leveling a THM for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  5. #205
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    I really do not understand how people can't understand that Changing who has what spells is alot easier than rewriting the entire story of these classes..

    THM are Priests dedicated to balancing Life and Death.

    CNJ sages dedicated to the balancing of elemental forces.

    It would be far easier to swap cure and drain than it would be to rewrite these back stories.

    I suppose they could be trolling us and decided to change the names of the classes in Japanese and what they called CNJ is now THM and vice versa.. lol I wish...
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    It doesnt alter the fact that the status is KO, and the message I believe says you were knocked out, also the status for dying/getting knocked out while your weakened is called Brink of Death, in other words you are about to die, not you have been killed and brought back to life 2 times.

    Raise =/= necromancy and it is in the lore of the game that the thurmaturges atleast experiment with necromancy which makes them dark mages or in FF terms black mages.
    You realize the only reason MMOs use the phrase Knocked Out instead of Died is so the ESRB doesn't have to Rate there game M right?
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  7. #207
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    I have a hard time seeing CNJ losing their elemental spells... The lore just doesn't really allow for it. Same with THM using primarily astral and umbral.

    I think they might keep those spells and Yoshi is using a different approach to make things work here.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    You realize the only reason MMOs use the phrase Knocked Out instead of Died is so the ESRB doesn't have to Rate there game M right?
    Then this game would have to be rated M now because if you get KO'd twice its basicly saying "OMFG dont fight you moron you WILL DIE!!!!"

    Also there are plenty of movies that have people dying that arent rated M, the term death doesnt mean its only sutable for people over 18.

    If the cencorship in US is that bad then all RPGs should be rated M because you are killing things, oh and you are using a sword to kill them thats even worse. Cencorship is not as bad as you think if it was to the extent that a fact of life (death) is as bad as watching someone get disembowled with a chainsaw, with blood splattering everywhere, then there is something wrong.
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  9. #209
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    I think they use KO instead of death because then "why couldnt I revive Aeris".
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Nobody really cares anymore. People are just defending their previous stances. I thought there was a strong indication that CNJ would be BLM. Others THM. THM won. The end.

    Please stop this.
    Never has someone posted more, about posting less.
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

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