CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Claire_Pendragon]

Is there something wrong with you? It's not about one person being killed in a story. It's about repeatedly subjecting the user to the experience of death. You really should not argue about things you know nothing about.

There are plenty of games where you die repeatedly, and are not rated M.
(Quick example, w/o any complexities to get in the way, WoW. You literally die, and are brought back to life. Repeatedly. But it is rated T. In other RPGs where death/life/afterlife are big themes tend to have actual death in place of KO)

I'm fairly sure later installments used the term KO for the above mentioned "Why Can't I revive "xxx" character?"
The idea in DnD (Which RPGs such as FF and DQ were inspired from.) is that you are KOed, and if no one is around to guard you, whilst you are knocked out, then either you die of your wounds, or are killed then.
What WAS censored, was the game over.
"Annihilated" was term once used for game over.

[kwestro]

I'm glad I leveled both. Rage=0.

[Estellios]

You die in Dragon Quest games and those aren't M. You're brought back to life because the goddess doesn't want you to die yet when you're wiped out.

[Crux]

Anyone who seriously thought CNJ was going to be BLM was delusional. I have been gone for a year, just started again on a new server with 1.19 and rolled a CNJ, it was plainly obvious that it was going to be WHM. Maybe the people that have time invested were just hoping, but all you had to do was read the spell list.

I got CNJ to 50, getting storyline quests done and then will level THM to 50. Not like it is hard, took a complete noob two weeks to get to 50.

[Hohenheim]

I wonder how much will be swapped around

[Soukyuu]

I always had the impression that BLM was about nuking everything with elemental spells - every black mage so far had Fire as his/her basic spell and other ones came along later.

FFXIV made it somehow mixed since CNJ had both nukes and healing spells. It does make more sense to me to leave the elemental nukes to CNJ and move Cure to THM, less changes and more plausible when considering the lore, why would a WHM worship the elementals and a BLM life an death? Unless they want to redefine the term BLM and make it a class that wields dark magic (scourge, etc)

[Coglin]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/game...rysystem/magic

Thaumaturge
"Death is Only the Beginning"

"In the hands of a skilled practitioner, thaumaturgy can be a force of terrifying destruction. At the heart of this school of magic lies the ability to call forth and command the latent aether within oneself through deep introspection."

This has been the description on the FFXIV page for THM since prerelease. It is literally the first of the classes lore. The same lore that so many here desire to swear up and down does not link THM to being BLM.

[Exni]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/game...rysystem/magic

Thaumaturge
"Death is Only the Beginning"

"In the hands of a skilled practitioner, thaumaturgy can be a force of terrifying destruction. At the heart of this school of magic lies the ability to call forth and command the latent aether within oneself through deep introspection."

This has been the description on the FFXIV page for THM since prerelease. It is literally the first of the classes lore. The same lore that so many here desire to swear up and down does not link THM to being BLM.

[Comment deleted by Moderator] Death does not relate to BLM lore, and in fact would relate more to the life/death aspect of WHM lore, obviously.. Terrifying destruction?... Really?... You are using an analogy that can be used to describe practically any high damage dealing class/mob/npc to prove your "point" now?.. OK.

[Coglin]

[Deleted by Moderator] Death does not relate to BLM lore, and in fact would relate more to the life/death aspect of WHM lore, obviously.. Terrifying destruction?... Really?... You are using an analogy that can be used to describe practically any high damage dealing class/mob/npc to prove your "point" now?.. OK.

Odd, I thought the high damage dealing mage class of terrifying destruction, out of the only two mage classes would be a no brainer for BLM.

To add though, I am curious why your so mad about this information, you have niether CON or THM past level 12, it appears you don't even have a dog in this fight.

[Jennestia]

Odd, I thought the high damage dealing mage class of terrifying destruction, out of the only two mage classes would be a no brainer for BLM.

To add though, I am curious why your so mad about this information, you have niether CON or THM past level 12, it appears you don't even have a dog in this fight.

I just figured he was sarcastic, since Black Mage lore in most games is it's one of the darkest and deadliest form of direct magic casting even to the point they can cast doom on their enemies and allies if they so wished.