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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Yes he did the opener with B4 but as I already said B4 ahs only a value when you CAN cast those 6 fire IV and that is not always possible, we haven't seen yoshida playing around a real raid scenario (btw we know he tests them with his BLM) so it's possible that we want to use them in specific situation, also remember that yoshida acknowledges the fact that the community can find more effective ways to play than them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    yoshida acknowledges the fact that the community can find more effective ways to play than them
    This is pretty much what i mean. You don't see Yoshi P running around on our servers spreading the BLM gospel lol. The liveletter is also the same kind of situation, the point was to showcase not to innovate, that is something they leave to us the population.

    The main problem with our class is meta viability.. Red mage does on par (I wont say more because fflogs is not a good enough proving method to determine this) damage plus has a party buff.

    I believe our rotation 4.05 rotation is fine, and leaves enough leeway for movement especially when we get more spell-speed. I believe that our problem right now is simply that we are suppose to be the samurai of magical dps, and we are currently not. They should either buff our potency or decrease the RDM potency bringing them in line with summoners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prophecy4seen View Post

    The main problem with our class is meta viability.. Red mage does on par (I wont say more because fflogs is not a good enough proving method to determine this) damage plus has a party buff.
    I think that we shouldn't compare ourselves to RDM if we are to be the SAM of casters, I think that however melee meta is so radicated in the brain of ppl that they lack to see that there are tons of moments were melee have to go around dodging stuffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Yes he did the opener with B4 but as I already said B4 ahs only a value when you CAN cast those 6 fire IV and that is not always possible, we haven't seen yoshida playing around a real raid scenario (btw we know he tests them with his BLM) so it's possible that we want to use them in specific situation, also remember that yoshida acknowledges the fact that the community can find more effective ways to play than them
    I think it was more along the lines:
    "Ok we want to merge enochian into af/ui, let's do it. But then there will be no reason for people to use b4 ever. Lets add something to it to make it viable."

    I highly doubt they actally tested (or even cared) it long enough to maximize dps gain over 3.0 rotation. Its still usable from time to time and thats about it, not the highest priority stuff.
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