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  1. #1
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    jstamos's Avatar
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 70

    The Last SCH Problem: Dissipation

    With the new patch changes, SCH is starting to feel great as a HEALER for once!

    Dissipation even has a reason to exist now, with those extra AF stacks continuing to lower the cooldown of AF even further. But it's still a bad cooldown. We all know this. Surely SE knows this.

    Let's talk about the fixes:

    1) The most obvious change: give us our faerie back.
    We are already being punished for not having the faerie during Dissipation, there's no reason to be double punished by having to summon it back.

    2) Change it.
    Maybe the new AF cooldown trait ends up making Dissipation too powerful (cannot imagine this would ever be the case but). Maybe a healing pulse, since we'll be in melee for Miasma 2?

    3) Buff it.
    The healing buff only affects some of our healing, and 20% isn't enough.

    4) How about just... nah.
    Maybe getting rid of our faerie for a while is a really stupid idea that has been clinging to life for no reason and is now into a 2nd xpac.
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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Just bring it back for us summoners don't lose their summon for doing bahumet, why do we?

    Cleary SE doesn't like eos/selene last two expansions have been abilities that take the fairy out of the fight.

    Also the 60 and 70 skill clash really hard. I mean they added the fairy guage but during dissipation those nice aether flows you got down add to fairy guage because she is gone.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    Just bring it back for us summoners don't lose their summon for doing bahumet, why do we?

    Cleary SE doesn't like eos/selene last two expansions have been abilities that take the fairy out of the fight.

    Also the 60 and 70 skill clash really hard. I mean they added the fairy guage but during dissipation those nice aether flows you got down add to fairy guage because she is gone.
    Shamelessly for the fourth time:


    Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
    Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gage at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gauge.


    Pls se give me a fairy swap.
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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Shamelessly for the fourth time:


    Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
    Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gage at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gauge.


    Pls se give me a fairy swap.
    Wait when did they add all that?
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    Kai Lee
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    Lancer Lv 70
    That is the longest description for a ability.
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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    Wait when did they add all that?
    Oh that's just your suggestion. Yeah that would fix it, but the aetherflow being 20 is just overkill, even without the boost . It would fix most of the issues with it.
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    M'yana Thul
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jstamos View Post
    With the new patch changes, SCH is starting to feel great as a HEALER for once!
    Your update must have been a differnt one than mine. It's still the same except for two QoL improvements and two buffs nobody asked for. Well, and Miasma II is back for SCH which kinda sucks because now we're again doomed to stay in melee range for "moar healer dps plxkkthxbye"
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AmelieR View Post
    Your update must have been a differnt one than mine. It's still the same except for two QoL improvements and two buffs nobody asked for. Well, and Miasma II is back for SCH which kinda sucks because now we're again doomed to stay in melee range for "moar healer dps plxkkthxbye"
    Ehh, I've already been trained by stacking mechanics to stay as close to the melee DPS as possible so that's not too much of a hardship in my opinion. SCH still has awhile to go but at least it doesn't feel nearly as clunky as before.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I wont say Dissipation is the "last" SCH probalem, but its certainly the biggest now, if it wasn't before.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Situation: Raid or Primal Fight
    Scenario: Co-healer is dead, large aoe incoming
    Your Whispering Dawn is on CD, incoming damage isnt magical and your AF abilities were used for party recovery, Fey Illumination is about to come off CD, what do you do?
    Fey Illumination, okay so you get 10% more healing on casts. Not enough to save the party but it's nice. Then comes Largese, another 20%. 30% feels nice. But wait, fairy isnt useful right now since her CDs are down and you really need some AOE. Here comes Dissipation for a total +50% boost to healing spells.

    At this point Succor is a constant 4k+ meaning 4k+ shields and Adlo is doing 8K+ (im at i317 so numbers may vary). Mix in Deployment on Adlo and ET on Succor and you can easily recover a dire situation. This example also does not include AF abilities short that indom and Excog are on CD and SS is... lol

    Is this situational? Sure. Does this situation happen? Sometimes. Are there other situations like this where a 20-50% healing boost is useful? Yes. Do I like having a potential answer for them? Absolutely.

    The only thing Dissipation should change is giving back the fairy since i'll be over here hemorrhaging MP for these spells. Just give back the fairy pleeeaaaassssseeeeeeeeeee.
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-19-2017 at 02:00 PM.

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