The sad state of customization

[Pori_Dessu]

They're noticeable enough to me and everyone else who's asked for more customization in the past. (And those threads have gotten LONG!)

Honestly SE doesn't need you making excuses for them.

I'm not making excuses for them, I want more customization as well, and I notice all this stuff as well. I'd like to be able to make a better and more unique looking character. But you gotta understand the other side of matters as well, that's the basic when thinking about things. I stated your request was reasonable, but you gotta understand why it isn't happening anytime soon. I'm not saying you shouldn't request stuff, just don't blame them if they don't implement it for a comprehensible reason from their standpoint.

[HakaseNyan]

I wonder what they'd have to sacrifice to give us more character customization. Anyone else played Black Desert? Plenty of character customization, but the amount of different armor, and how they appear on the character, is awful. The only other comparison I can think of, similar to FFXIV, is Guild Wars 2 - I don't remember the character customization being all that great either, but then they have up to 3 dyes on a piece of armor and a bank/wallet thing going on.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

BDO has good character customization and... Thats about it.

[Naunet]

I wonder what they'd have to sacrifice to give us more character customization. Anyone else played Black Desert? Plenty of character customization, but the amount of different armor, and how they appear on the character, is awful. The only other comparison I can think of, similar to FFXIV, is Guild Wars 2 - I don't remember the character customization being all that great either, but then they have up to 3 dyes on a piece of armor and a bank/wallet thing going on.

Character customization in GW2 is WAY more than in FFXIV. WildStar is another game with better character customization and just as much (actually more, when you consider dyes and the wardrobe system) armor customization as FFXIV. Heck, Rift even has more customization.

I know what point you were trying to make, but I don't buy it.

[Annah]

That's bringing personal taste and personal preference in a discussion that doesn't involve it. FXIV might be better to you but to someone else those android games might make FFXIV look like complete s**t to them. I've played a lot of games too, some with more customization options then FFXIV some with less. Yes some in both camps to me make FFXIV look like garbage. But that's personal opinion. The question is why is a game that's major standpoint is glamor and looking amazing not have the tool set to fully take advantage of both.

Yes. That is very true. It is about personal tastes. I personally have never found a mobile game that was better than FFXIV

[Avatre]

As much as more customization would be awesome, personally I think their priorities should be with keeping the content they release challenging(which is hit and miss...and not on topic at all) and fixing some of the issues with some of the classes(I haven't experienced any myself, but from some of the threads I can see there are issues).

[usalia]

People it about the customization not game play.in bdo the problem is the p2w. In a mobile game the same. But you can MAKE the hair you want out of 153 parts.

[Vidu]

People it about the customization not game play.in bdo the problem is the p2w. In a mobile game the same. But you can MAKE the hair you want out of 153 parts.

But both customization options and gameplay require time and attention of the dev-team. If they put more attention on customization, there is less time for gameplay/new content. Very simple, really. You cant have everything, basically and the team stated several times that their ressources are limited (not only because they might not get enough foundings but also because they actually had trouble to find new, good and qualified people to hire).

Now, I dont play any of those mobile games you're talking about, but as I said before: If those were build with the idea of "Oh, we want to offer people lots of different hairstyles!" in mind their code will reflect that and make it easier to implement this. The code of this game is somewhat of a mess and isnt build around the idea of lots of customization.
But please, tell me: What do those mobile games offer beside customization? Again, without having played any, I would kinda expect a mobile game to lack on aspects that this game is strong(er) in - such as: a good story, general better graphics, different types and amount of content, cutscenes and so on - because those are the things this game focusses on.
Take a look at your f2p-mobile-game and see what FFXIV has that this game doesnt - money and time of dev-teams are always limited.
And as much as I would like more customization-options (and specially no clipping...) I understand that they need to set priotities. And we can ofc agree with those and voice our opinions about what we'd rather see, but we need to be aware that its always gonna be a trade off. If ressources are going one way, they cant go the other one. If your f2p-games says "Hey, our strong side is customization" that most likely means they're lacking something else, that FFXIV might have because the devs considered that more important.

Personally I'll take new armour and a new raid over a butt slider every day - even though I'm playing a Roe who looks a bit ridicolous in some outfits being kinda bulky but with a flat butt...

[Naunet]

But both customization options and gameplay require time and attention of the dev-team. If they put more attention on customization, there is less time for gameplay/new content.

See my post above. You CAN actually have both. It's not like MMOs are updating their character customization options with every patch, making that compete with other content. NORMALLY character customization development is frontloaded and then doesn't have to be worried about unless adding a new race or something. Thus it should NOT be an either/or situation.

We deserve a bit more work from SE to improve customization aspects of this game.

[JunseiKei]

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You forgot that the game was built from the ashes of 1.0, a 2010 game. It wouldn't surprise me if there are still tons of limitations that they are trying to remove, but unsure how or may be dangerous to change. It's probably harder to retroactively add more customization options on a system that was not built for it. These other games that were mentioned all had the customization already built into the system.

Unsure about BnS in final release. I know when I played it, it had about as much customization as TERA (which really wasn't that much IMO). BDO is really pretty, but that's about all there is to the game. Prettiness- there's no meat to it. IMO, no game has ever been as customizable as Perfect World International (2005). Speaking of TERA, their solution to hair clipping was simply forcing the hair up into a bun or pony tail. I absolutely loved my long haired elf constantly wearing it up because of my armor. Always made me wonder why I was given a long hair option to begin with.

Yeah, I'll take SE's limited options for content that I actually enjoy, which I can't say was ever really the case in the other games I've played that offered more customization. The stuff I actually enjoy at the end of the game I can find in FFXIV, so I play FFXIV.