SCH opinons on the change

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Whether you believe it or not does not invalidate the experience so /shrug. Please also show me where I can find information on the range of issuing commands, because I've definitely never noticed this.

Edit: Just tested range and guess what I found? No range on issuing commands, she will either de-spawn or return to you if not stationary before cutting off command issuing.

If eos is out of range for a command (including Fey Union) she will move to be able to cast it, after fey union ends she will start moving again as before fey union was cast.

[Riyshn]

If eos is out of range for a command (including Fey Union) she will move to be able to cast it, after fey union ends she will start moving again as before fey union was cast.

This was in response to RajaVamberaux saying that there is a range past which pets will no longer receive commands, not anything about the range of the pet abilities themselves.

There is a range requirement on Aetherpact, because that is technically an ability that you are using on the fairy, not actually a pet ability. Same as Rouse. Whispering Dawn and such are straight pet abilities though, and do not have command ranges.

[RajaVamberaux]

"Dear SE, your pet AI is garbage. Please fix." This is not something that needs a bug fix, it needs a system overhaul.

The behavior that was described is not reproducable. The pet will not interrupt a Place command in order to Embrace. If this was encountered, yeah - that's called a bug. (It also didn't happen.)

That is... not how SCH's MP management works. They don't really allow free healing. Any Aetherflow stack spent on anything other than Energy Drain is a straight up loss of 1200MP. Those 3 "Cure II"s that we get to cast every 45-60 seconds? (And will point out that Lustrate is still weaker than Cure II.) Those are the only ones we get, and they're competing for limited resource with 5 other abilities.

That's... actually exactly how Scholar MP management works. Your math is a little off. Indomitability over Energy Drain is a gain of 1080 MP. Lustrate over ET + Aldo is a gain of 600 MP. Only when healing isn't needed is Energy Drain an MP gain, and if healing isn't needed why wouldn't stacks be spent on Energy Drain anyways?

Further, a stack spent on Lustrate or Indomitability instead of Energy Drain is a DPS gain over any GCD heal, period. It's not 'competing for other abilities' when one of those abilities is a buffed Lustrate and another is an AoE Bole that has very niche uses (some competition!!).

The fact of the matter is, many Scholars have been overhealing with shields and now it's caught up to them. Here's an example: I see Scholars Succor the first Uheki in Susano when the party is nearly topped all the time! How about instead you let some HP drop and Indom instead. This is just one of many many cases where Scholars have been overabusing shields to the detriment of both their MP capacity and DPS output, and instead of doing some simple math to show how Lustrate & Indom are the most superior uses of stacks all I hear is Energy Drain! Energy Drain!

[NorthernLadMSP]

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They complained about no reason to use Excog. Fixed.

They complained about how lame Aetherflow trait was. Fixed.

They complained about Aetherpact range and using gauge even when link broke. Fixed.

They complained about no spammable AOE. Fixed.

They complained about MP. Partially fixed (I never had any MP problems to begin with).

I think you misunderstand.

[Riyshn]

The behavior that was described is not reproducable. The pet will not interrupt a Place command in order to Embrace. If this was encountered, yeah - that's called a bug. (It also didn't happen.)

That you have never personally noticed it happening does not mean that it doesn't happen. Congratulations, you're either unobservant or have gotten lucky. It does happen.

and instead of doing some simple math to show how Lustrate & Indom are the most superior uses of stacks all I hear is Energy Drain! Energy Drain!

Says the person who's parses I'm looking at show using Energy Drain twice as often as Lustrate and Indom combined. Yes, obviously the superior usage.

[Lildragora]

The behavior that was described is not reproducable. The pet will not interrupt a Place command in order to Embrace. If this was encountered, yeah - that's called a bug. (It also didn't happen.)

1. If you acknowledge something could be a bug, you cant say it did not happen.
2. i'm open to the possibility of it being a bug, as I said it was a rare scenario. To better state it has only happened twice, in Lakshmi EX after the first set of orb drops during the first chanchala. When im prepping deployment for the stack mechanic.

Given the exact similarities, I can see how it could be a bug (although it never really crossed my mind just frustrating in the moment). That doesn't change how garbage the AI for pets in general is.

[Kiddiotic]

Are we really forgetting about Thin Air right here?

Thin Air > SC + Ress > MEDICA 2 > CURE 3 > CURE 3 ,someone please do the math for the free MP right here.

Also a moment of butt hurt, AF restores lesser mp than a single Aldo cast. (unless you stack full piety material i guess) How pathetic is this? But i have to admit playing SCH so far, i didn't face any extreme adversity from mp issue because i didn't cast Aldo most of the time.

SE took 10% off our mp from AF, increases the MP for Succor & Aldo. (triple nerf right here to our mp management?) Yea Lucid Dreaming which is now available to ALL healers.

YAY YO, i am a SCHOLAR that don't use Aldo so frequently cause i need to manage my mana for other heals. (Scholar's main role is damage mitigation *nods head*)

[Raim]

Isn't that just a ton of pointless AoE overhealing though?

[LegoTechnic]

While not listed in the tooltip, Aetherpact has a range similar to Rouse and cannot be triggered if the fairy is beyond about 25-30 yalms from the player (Rouse range is 25y incidentally, and physick is 30y; aetherpact's cutoff is around there). You can experience this easily in Lakshimi if you place your fairy near the tank and then run out of healing range with a lotus.

I have never experienced the fairy failing to respond to a command over distance, though I have seen it despawn due to distant placement in large arenas like A7S (placed in a distant corner while I ran with flame debuff), so you have to be careful about such things if the arena is large enough (this is somewhat rare). An exception to this is Embrace, as Eos will not move to cast it and must be within 25y of a target or she will most often tilt her head in a confused manner and stare off into space. I HAVE felt the need to mash commands though, as she will occasionally ignore a single input of an ability if you time it at the beginning of her Embrace casting (this is not too uncommon, so you should always mash WD and the like 2-3 times).

There was a time where the fairy's AI was wonky in HW between patches where she would stop in the middle of movement during the Place command and cast embrace, but this was hotfixed in the next patch and only occurred in a very small window of the game. Currently and most of the time she will not interrupt place movement, though to make sure we're clear on this, this was something that was an issue for a very brief window.

[Kiddiotic]

All I can say is, "use the right tool in the right situation."

Try casting Whispering Dawn with EOS, that 3 second is gone right there if she is casting embrace on someone at that moment.

EOS takes a dip down, collects all the pixie dust she store under that tiny skirt of hers, spinning upwards ensuring her dust twinkle and stuff. That is 5 seconds right there by the time Whispering Dawn hits the team + another 1 second for it to tick *winks* (or otherwise longer if she decide to embrace someone else cause she lacks love)

I will just assume you are always playing with your premade team that makes no/minimal mistakes based on what you explained above.

I cant count how many times, for e.g. Susano EX phase 3 Churning, BrightStorm, Lightning Cloud happening at the same time. Someone shift the BrightStorm so the team wont get hit by the Lightning cloud with Churning debuff on them, always result in very devastating damage dealt to the team. Most of the time 1 - 2 deaths or more if that idiot decide not to die himself and bring that AOE to share with the already low health team.

Indom - Yea i cast it right away provided i don't have to spam Lustrate to make sure the Tanks / Healer survive.
SC + Succor - Depending on situation, if my other Healer/Tank is dead SC Ress instead.

EOS to .. yea i leave it to fate after i mash Whispering Dawn 2 times.

If you think you can "Pre Plan" and use your spells at the "Right time" try queuing EX on incomplete DF, these new players need some love. i do that all the time cause it challenges me to learn how to play healer better given any kind of situation. you can say its not realistic to look at things that way, but from the way i compare it no doubt other healers are having a easier time than scholar right now period.

That being said, i am still targeting at the fact that our Faerie needs more improvement. Obey needs to be reiterated into their AI.

PS: i still love my Faeries <3