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  1. #91
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xygoz View Post
    Honestly, Not to happy.
    Our shields are still crap, and our heals are still crap...
    yay 45sec recast on aetherflow...
    adlo mp cost still stupid high
    Succor mp cost still stupid high
    indo recast still 30 seconds, it was fine at 400 pot really
    and the list goes on lol
    /facedesk
    The only thing /facedesk about this post is the fact you got 11 likes.

    If you think these changes are bad and you think SCH is weak, you need to find a new job. Maybe you should try RDM, it's stupidly EZ mode.
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  2. #92
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    Lildragora's Avatar
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Then you were out of range. The AI doesn't act any differently for you than it does for everyone else.
    There's a range on issuing commands? Or you mean the fairy was out of range? Because she does fly up to get close enough to cast things like embrace. Where as Whispering Dawn doesn't require any "range" so im really curious what you mean. Out of range of the effect?

    While I doubt the entirety of Rouse could go by without a command since you can queue abilities with Embrace, to even imply the fairy is not clunky is incorrect. Embrace will cancel things like moving, it will delay commands. On multiple occasions I have had to move her twice because she stopped mid way to cast embrace. So you can potential take up to the cast of embrace or if she really wants embrace, moving, stopping mid way for embrace, and then moving again. At that point the opportunity for anything you were planning is ruined.

    Is this latter scenario rare? Yes. Does it happen? Yes.
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-18-2017 at 10:02 PM.

  3. #93
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    Raja Vamberaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lildragora View Post
    There's a range on issuing commands?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lildragora View Post
    I have had to move her twice because she stopped mid way to cast embrace.
    She literally does not do this.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    It's almost as if people are aware that AST do have other means to recover MP besides Lucid Dreaming. Lightspeed to reduce costs if need be, Ewer for MP recovery, which can be extended if needed. The idea that AST doesn't have means to recover MP outside Lucid is just wrong.
    Does an Ewer allow AST to cast Cure II for free? How many? And at what cost? The opportunity cost of an AoE RR or a different card is far from negligible.

    Does extending lightspeed by C.O. refresh enough MP for a free Helios?

    It's almost as if people aren't aware that Aetherflow stacks allow free healing to the tune of 5000+ MP every 60 seconds.
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  5. #95
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Then you were out of range. The AI doesn't act any differently for you than it does for everyone else.
    It was A11S. It would have been literally impossible for me to be out of range.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    It was A11S. It would have been literally impossible for me to be out of range.
    Then submit a bug report.
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  7. #97
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Miasma II:

    Pros: unique dps in that it is a high power dot and base. 100 + 100 and instant. They essentially combined aero and blizzard iI dps wise.

    Cons:
    Short area of effect.
    Huge mp cost relative to what blizzard was, but i guess ok compared to holy/gravity.
    Not ranged.

    Overall i think se did good on this one.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Miasma II:

    Pros: unique dps in that it is a high power dot and base. 100 + 100 and instant. They essentially combined aero and blizzard iI dps wise.

    Cons:
    Short area of effect.
    Huge mp cost relative to what blizzard was, but i guess ok compared to holy/gravity.
    Not ranged.

    Overall i think se did good on this one.
    It's honestly prettu much exactly what I was hoping for. Would have preferred if it was a 50x2 DoT instead of 25x4, but either way the potency allows it to be spammed on 3+ groups as long as you can afford the MP, or cast one every few GCDs and healing in between if you're going for efficiency. I am left a bit confused that they put it as a Job skill at 46 instead of slotting it back into the vacant Lv40 Job quest, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Then submit a bug report.
    "Dear SE, your pet AI is garbage. Please fix." This is not something that needs a bug fix, it needs a system overhaul.

    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Does an Ewer allow AST to cast Cure II for free? How many? And at what cost? The opportunity cost of an AoE RR or a different card is far from negligible.

    Does extending lightspeed by C.O. refresh enough MP for a free Helios?

    It's almost as if people aren't aware that Aetherflow stacks allow free healing to the tune of 5000+ MP every 60 seconds.
    That is... not how SCH's MP management works. They don't really allow free healing. Any Aetherflow stack spent on anything other than Energy Drain is a straight up loss of 1200MP. Those 3 "Cure II"s that we get to cast every 45-60 seconds? (And will point out that Lustrate is still weaker than Cure II.) Those are the only ones we get, and they're competing for limited resource with 5 other abilities.

    It's a bit off topic, but I'll come right out and say it. Even though 10% Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming is objectively stronger than the old 20% Aetherflow (Or at least was before the Quickened Aetherflwo buff, haven't redone the math yet), SCH as a job is worse off with the homogenizing of healer skills that Lucid and Largesse have caused.
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    Last edited by Riyshn; 07-18-2017 at 11:09 PM.

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    The only thing /facedesk about this post is the fact you got 11 likes.

    If you think these changes are bad and you think SCH is weak, you need to find a new job. Maybe you should try RDM, it's stupidly EZ mode.
    where in their post did they say the changes were bad? All they mentioned was that they didn't exactly hit the issues that a few other scholars wanted fixed.

    You misunderstand.
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  10. #100
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    She literally does not do this.
    Whether you believe it or not does not invalidate the experience so /shrug. Please also show me where I can find information on the range of issuing commands, because I've definitely never noticed this.

    Edit: Just tested range and guess what I found? No range on issuing commands, she will either de-spawn or return to you if not stationary before cutting off command issuing.
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-18-2017 at 11:03 PM.

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