Why are RDMs so scared of SMN being able to heal?

[Kit-Kat]

Yeah, I agree. For the longest time, SMN has been lugging around this appendix from ACN and were content with the excuse that hey, it's a healing spell. They're powered by MND, so OF COURSE it's going to suck on an INT-based job.

Then along comes RDM, with a cure based on INT... It's not unreasonable for SMN to ask, "If RDM has a cure based on INT, why can't Physick work the same way for SMN?"
It's irritating that SE, in "cleaning up" SMN, left two terrible abilities (Physick and Tri-Bind) while removing one that was actually useful (Sustain).

It is unreasonable. Like I posted in another thread, the only reason SMN has Physick and raise is because it shares a base class with a healing job, which needs said spells at low levels. SE can't remove those from SMN without hurting SCH. It's their awkward dual job system. You're basically using spells you shouldn't be using or having in your hotbars (except for raise I guess), yet SMNs are asking for it to be buffed/changed.

Really, I'd say that the best possible solution would be for SMN to have a job trait that turns Physick into Sustain. I think that'd solve most folks' complaints.

Now this is actually a good idea.

OT: As a RDM, I don't care if RDM gets its heal removed or if SMN gets a proper heal based on INT for physick, in fact I wish they would had given us an actual useful skill, it's a waste of job ability slot. Its only purpose is to make people feel like they're playing a real hybrid RDM from past games instead of just a pure caster dps, which we actually are. I just find it silly the reasons SMNs want a heal on par with RDMs when the actual issue is the removal of Sustain, which everyone agrees SE shouldn't have done that.

[Ayer2015]

Add a SMN trait to convert Physic to Sustain.... problem solved.

[eschaton]

Its only purpose is to make people feel like they're playing a real hybrid RDM from past games instead of just a pure caster dps, which we actually are.

Except that a RDM is not a pure dps class, this was made clear at the live letter, so you are wrong there. You know, a BLM is a pure dps class, and their damage output potential should reflect this over the other caster classes. I really hope the update will reflect the variety in caster classes (better) again tomorrow. Let's see!

[AlexionSkylark]

Except that a RDM is not a pure dps class, this was made clear at the live letter, so you are wrong there. You know, a BLM is a pure dps class, and their damage output potential should reflect this over the other caster classes. I really hope the update will reflect the variety in caster classes (better) again tomorrow. Let's see!

Exactly. RDM is not meant to be a pure DPS class, sorry to bust your bubble.

[Avatre]

Except that a RDM is not a pure dps class, this was made clear at the live letter, so you are wrong there. You know, a BLM is a pure dps class, and their damage output potential should reflect this over the other caster classes. I really hope the update will reflect the variety in caster classes (better) again tomorrow. Let's see!

Exactly. RDM is not meant to be a pure DPS class, sorry to bust your bubble.

Yes, and no. Pure DPS when we aren't needed to save the day(happened to me over the weekend).

[AlexionSkylark]

Yes, and no. Pure DPS when we aren't needed to save the day(happened to me over the weekend).

I was able to heal the entire party through the last boss of Shisui of the Violet Tides a week ago because the healer went AFK without telling anyone and got locked outside the boss room

[Ametrine]

I think we've all voiced the same request of Sustain needing to come back desperately, but I'm in the boat that the minor edge in support Resurrection and Physic gave was a major facet of why I liked the job.

"Oh no the healers are down!"
"I'll save em!"
*swift-rez-aetherflow mp back-physic tank*
And we beat the boss.

This happened many times, and it felt very good, but SE thinks I'm playing SMN wrong now.

[Kit-Kat]

Except that a RDM is not a pure dps class, this was made clear at the live letter, so you are wrong there. You know, a BLM is a pure dps class, and their damage output potential should reflect this over the other caster classes. I really hope the update will reflect the variety in caster classes (better) again tomorrow. Let's see!

Oh sorry I forgot their 3 melee hits after some time charging gauge. >______>. Yes, we're pure caster dps. There's not a single reason why we would heal in a fight. RDM is suposed to do a bit of everything but in XIV they can't without breaking the trinity, so they gave players a heal spell that they should never use, we're just dps.

[Annah]

i have literally never met anyone ingame who was a redmage who was afraid that Summoners can heal.

Is this really a thing or a troll post?

[Avatre]

There's not a single reason why we would heal in a fight.

Healer dies, tank needs healing, only RDM is alive that can use a healing spell...there is a reason right there.

i have literally never met anyone ingame who was a redmage who was afraid that Summoners can heal.

Is this really a thing or a troll post?

Most likely troll post. I couldn't care less if SMN can heal similar/better/worse/not at all like a RDM. I rarely need to use Vercure, but when I do it's usually just once because the healer(s) are resurrecting.