Sorry mnk and mch... no love for you during this patch :(

[Brinzy]

I don't have proof, but I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of requests for monk to be redesigned all throughout HW, especially since it was a relatively poor class for lacking utility and thus having lower group damage. Many of those threads had suggestions for how they'd like the class to change. This was long before, during, and after Stormblood was announced.

And, people were saying it was boring back then, too. Clearly the developers disagreed. Whether it is or not is sorta a side issue with me; I just don't think that expecting people to not ask for redesigns isn't totally out of the question, even if it's just individual abilities. They literally just changed a WHM ability. I don't think it's too out of the realm to ask for MNK to get something similar.

[Lastelli]

I don't have proof, but I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of requests for monk to be redesigned all throughout HW, especially since it was a relatively poor class for lacking utility and thus having lower group damage. Many of those threads had suggestions for how they'd like the class to change. This was long before, during, and after Stormblood was announced.

iirc those were mainly suggestions on how to give mnk utility, not real gameplay changes. mnk are now complaining about their actual gameplay, how the job feels. and since it feels the same as before, I really don't get what the problem is. If you liked mnk in hw there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't like it now, the only exception being maybe rof since it disrupts their flow (and I have no problem with it tbh).

[Brinzy]

For me, RoF is absolutely the reason I'm dragging my feet on leveling monk. That and I just haven't had the time. I'm fine with the way monk plays otherwise; I do agree that it's strange to keep playing this class if the baseline kit isn't exciting.

Most of the threads were asking for utility, and monk got utility, so the complaints seem to be really just RoF and hoping for a redesign there.

[ArtieTiger]

The MCH changes look so superficial... just for making the job easier but that's not the real problem with the job...