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    Ariomi's Avatar
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    Ariyala Amaterasu
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70

    Summoner needs a Raise, a Verraise, and a resurrection.

    Quick disclaimer. I know Summoner has a raise ability. The title is a joke that Summoner is so dead that it needs to be revived three times at this point.

    https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/15...036&dataset=60

    With Machinist getting several potencies increased, (Some of them where doubled in potency!) it is very likely Summoner will be the weakest dps, in the entire game with no significant Utility to make up for it.

    With Black Mage getting buffed, and Summoner getting no adjustment to their dps or utility it might as well be 6 Feet under the ground.
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    Vincent Highwindus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Yes... Now drg and mch both buffed is just rip smn
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Ahhh MCH didn't get some huge buff...it's still easily the weakest job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Ahhh MCH didn't get some huge buff...it's still easily the weakest job
    I don't know about that. Mch got a cooldown duration halved, 3% damage increase, and a 400 potency attack turned into 800.

    Summoner dps is at 3,048 with Machinist at 3,037.

    With Hot Shot increasing Machinist dps by 3% (was 5% now is 8%) Im pretty sure a 3% increase to 3k dps would be over the 11 dps needed to overtake summoner.
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    Fester Blight
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    Rogue Lv 80
    That would not fix a thing, you would need an healer lb3 too.
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    Angry Evil
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    Summoner Lv 80
    You should understand one simple thing - potency, cd etc. changes are easy and don't eat resources. But summoner needs IMPLEMENTATION of a new FUNCTION like egi-glamours. This on the other hand is very resource requiring task, cause u need to write new code, debug etc. That means WHOLE smn budget was spent on bahamut size command for 4.1+.
    Just play RDM in a meantime like a good boys
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Evil View Post
    You should understand one simple thing - potency, cd etc. changes are easy and don't eat resources. But summoner needs IMPLEMENTATION of a new FUNCTION like egi-glamours. This on the other hand is very resource requiring task, cause u need to write new code, debug etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Velon_ View Post
    Considering the amount of changes we've seen based on community feedback, i am pretty sure they listen. The fact that SMN still remains "low" means that they either need more time to balance it or they have other plans for the class.
    ^ this - aether adjustment just seems the only step they could "hotfix fast" next step would be looking at the potecy... smn atm is like windows os... just hot fixing stuff over stuff which should be completely revamped... but yeah to expensive and no priority like it seems.
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    Yesuntei Bayaqud
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Funny how it's the same people, complaining about the same things, in different threads.
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    Kiva Kai
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    Famfrit
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Velon Your point?
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    Yesuntei Bayaqud
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Furrythefireman View Post
    Velon Your point?
    My point is that swarming the forums with the same complains won't help. Lets keep it constructive and on one thread, not 10.

    Edit: A few threads about SMN issues.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...harder-to-play
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glaring-Issues
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...addressed-ASAP
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    Last edited by Velon_; 07-18-2017 at 05:11 PM.

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