Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Austie13]

Hi everyone! I figured I would throw in some ideas that could be fun to implement! All of the numbers and such could be adjusted but the foundation is there.

What I would love to see would be a revamped Lily system that automatically generate lilies over time (say 1 lily every 15 seconds) and can stack to three. The white mage would be given an ability to consume a lily which would then alter the effect of the next spell used.

Keeping the “Pure Healer” idea in mind while trying not to step on other healer’s niches, some examples could included:
Cure I – After 5 seconds the target is healed again for a cure I potency (unable to crit).
Cure II – Puts a short duration shield on the target for 15% of their max hp. (This could replace divine benison)
Cure III – Instant Cast
Medica – Heals targets below 50% of their max hp for 50% more.
Medica II – No mana cost.
Regen – Applies a Nature’s Regen that can stack with a normal regen.

Plenary Indulgence also could be reworked. If I am correct indulgence in this sense is paying to have ones sins absolved so why not make it an AoE heal that consumes all current regen effects (regen, nature’s regen, and medica II) and has a base heal that scales with each regen effect consumed? Thusly you are "paying" your regens to reap a reward!

What do you think?

[Kabzy]

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Certainly unique, but those changes would push both AST and SCH out of the meta. There would be no need for a second healer if WHM could do all that on its own. xD

Edit: One ability I really wanted WHM to get in 4.0 was Pray. It's generally a weak spell, so it wouldn't be a reliable AoE heal, but it would be something free and instant which, as seen in FF games, could also have an additional effect. Whether it's a low MP/TP regen or some kind of buff. It fits in well with WHM and afaik was a pretty iconic ability for them.

[Sansa78]

Still don't see why scholar got all these changes and we've been complaining for months..

[Kabzy]

Still don't see why scholar got all these changes and we've been complaining for months..

Most of the WHM complaining came before 4.0 was even released. Upon release most people realised that WHMs needed a few tweaks at most, whereas SCH basically needs a rework. Lilies and PI were the biggest complaints, and tbf they are at least looking into that for tomorrow.

We don't know all the changes just yet, but what they listed for SCH isn't even what most SCHs wanted. We wanted to keep our identity as a mitigation healer, and they haven't mentioned any buffs to that yet, and the Faerie is staying at 250 potency, Dissipation unchanged etc etc. So you should probably be happy that WHMs are actually getting changes in the areas they have requested. o/

[Foxehkins]

To be honest, I'd be happy with plenary indulgence having a change and sure give me more lilies. But what I really think we should have is an added effect to asylum adding an MP Regen. Or even a Regen like ability that let's us replenish MP but cast it on others. It would provide utility towards dps.

[Rawrz]

Most of the WHM complaining came before 4.0 was even released. Upon release most people realised that WHMs needed a few tweaks at most, whereas SCH basically needs a rework. Lilies and PI were the biggest complaints, and tbf they are at least looking into that for tomorrow.

We don't know all the changes just yet, but what they listed for SCH isn't even what most SCHs wanted. We wanted to keep our identity as a mitigation healer, and they haven't mentioned any buffs to that yet, and the Faerie is staying at 250 potency, Dissipation unchanged etc etc. So you should probably be happy that WHMs are actually getting changes in the areas they have requested. o/

In b4 that sweet 70 potency, nonspammable Aoe all the gud schs have been asking for. Just the name miasma ii is going to send me into shock ;-;. Ask for a spammable low potency aoe [65 potency to match the ratio of blizzard II] get another dot.... curious about patch notes but i seriously dislike the person guiding SCH.... They seriously still think dissipation is too powerful?? :[

[Saraphin]

Let's see....

Plenary Indulgence

Party members will no longer be granted a Confession when HP is restored via Cure and Cure II. They will instead be granted a Confession when HP is restored via Medica, Medica II, or Cure III.
The chance of granting party members a Confession has been increased from 20% to 100%.
The duration of the Confession has been reduced from 30 to 10 seconds.
Healing potency based on the number of stacks of Confession has been reduced from 400 for one stack, 500 for two stacks, and 600 for three stacks to 150 for one stack, 300 for two stacks, and 450 for three stacks.
Recast time increased from 15 to 60 seconds.
Confession stacks will now also be granted to the player casting Medica, Medica II, or Cure III.

Okay..i'm fine with a down to Potency...not sure about 60s, and do the Medica 2 ticks count? the 10 seconds...seems...to make them even...less, worse...possibly?

[Anastacy]

I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation in which I'd use the new PI and feel "this was good; this was better than using another AoE heal". I mean, free healing, yay? And once a minute (if that)? Instead of just casting 1 more Medica and letting the already-cast-Medica II regen everyone up?

Maybe I'm just not that creative at this hour.

[ForceModified]

IMO, Plenary is still going to be rarely used for me, they really don't know what to do with it.

Confession Timer is on 10 seconds? why change it.
Potency down? well yeah that's fine, it's an AoE heal but still think it's abit too much, it's our 70 skill, it's mean't to be great.
60 Second cooldown? Far too long, 30 seconds maybe? that's pushing it still.

It's great the stacks are now 100% but I don't plan on spamming Medica just to cast a worthless potency heal, especially when I have Assize ready or Medica 2 healing everyone.

[Tristann]

I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation in which I'd use the new PI and feel "this was good; this was better than using another AoE heal". I mean, free healing, yay? And once a minute (if that)? Instead of just casting 1 more Medica and letting the already-cast-Medica II regen everyone up?

Maybe I'm just not that creative at this hour.

Free AOE whenever a single Medica 2 isn't enough to top ppl in time. I'll take that.