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  1. #41
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post

    Who cares if SMN can heal as well or better than RDM? Isn't being OP good enough?
    Weeeeeeeell...

    One job was created to use both White and Black magics and the other uses summoning magic primarily!
    So it seems pretty self explanatory to me.
    Also I doubt Red mages care, this is a lore thing.

    edit: Seems like someone even quoted the official word on this on the first page! Guess that's it then :3
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  2. #42
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    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    "You're a pet job, so manage your pets."

    How are we supposed to manage said pets when we can't heal them if they get hit by something? Part of managing your pet is the ability to keep it alive, but if you don't have that then you can't actually manage them. Healers can't see pet health bars so more often than not Egis don't get healed aside from AoEs. If they are honestly afraid of SMNs being able to do things they can't because Titan-egi + sustain then nerf the healing sustain does, but at least give us SOME way to keep our pet alive. It was easier to level as SCH because Titan-egi died if more than one mob looked at it, which is just ridiculous.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Your job is already extremely easy with very little punishment for making mistake. You have the best burst for single target and have the highest DPS of the casters.

    Who cares if SMN can heal as well or better than RDM? Isn't being OP good enough?

    I wasn't aware SMN was a difficult job that wasn't just as "easy" as you claim RDMs to be. and lol at "being OP"

    I guess SAM is the "OP" Melee DPS, WHM is the "OP" healer of the roles as well.

    a SMN (DPS) can change to a SCH (Healer) since they level together at will, and if they are geared. No other jobs can do that.
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  4. #44
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    Theji'a Majoh
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I can understand and even agree with what the devs think about this.

    However Phisick is still an ability in the Summoner arsenal and as of now it's just a wasted slot.
    If Summoners should really forget about it because class fantasy and so on then fine, make it exclusive to Scholars and let Summoners have Sustain or anything really instead of it.
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  5. #45
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    This us vs them mentality when we can play all the classes is weird. I'd very much like to get pet heals back when playing SMN. Having better heals would be a perk, but that's the healer's job in a group setting.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 07-17-2017 at 04:18 AM.

  6. #46
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    Verius_Nox's Avatar
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    Whispering Crow
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Your job is already extremely easy with very little punishment for making mistake. You have the best burst for single target and have the highest DPS of the casters.

    Who cares if SMN can heal as well or better than RDM? Isn't being OP good enough?
    Weird to assume any RDM cares what SE does with SMN's physick, because I certainly don't care if they buff SMN physick.
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  7. #47
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    You people crying about homogenization. Have you looked at the healer changes or the tank changes? YoshiP is high if he thinks there isn't any. They did it to healers, why not DPS?
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  8. #48
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    a SMN (DPS) can change to a SCH (Healer) since they level together at will, and if they are geared. No other jobs can do that.
    I don't see why you had to say this. Both are different jobs and not every Summoner or Scholar plays the counterpart job.

    And they're not wrong about RDM being extremely easy compared to SMN.
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  9. #49
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    OP, by your logic, DRK should get a Cure that heals for 1200 potency as well.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I don't see why you had to say this. Both are different jobs and not every Summoner or Scholar plays the counterpart job.

    And they're not wrong about RDM being extremely easy compared to SMN.
    I play both, and they are pretty much the same in terms of ease of you, the only real difference is SMN is heavly punished from dying or messing up aetherflow.

    I mentioned that because it's one class that branches off into 2 for 2 different roles, and OP is ignoring that like RDM is some god at healing, when it's only really used in emergency situations. But they can't just branch off to a healer at will.
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