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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100

    Plenary Indulgence. Really?

    First of all to everyone saying WHM does not need any more heals, just let it rest. It's in the game now and SE is not going to remove it so just learn to at least like this ability.

    Anyway why doesn't this heal work off Lilies? I mean confessions? Really SE? Why not keep the cooldown the same and just allow it to use lilies for it's potencies.

    1 Lily= 400 Potency
    2 Lilies= 500 Potency
    3 Lilies= 600 Potency

    The spell is cast on self automatically and targets anyone within 20y of you. This will make the spell at least more enjoyable to use in my book. Get rid of confessions and just let this ability use lilies. If you want to keep confessions in the game then allow it to proc on a 50% chance from Cure, Cure II, Cure 3, Medica and the initial heal from Medica 2 not the regen.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I don't know why they went with Plenary and Confessions, but the simple fix is to make it so Confessions don't expire until a zone transition or whatever. Suddenky they're useful.
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    Inori Yuzuriiha
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    Famfrit
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I don't like this idea. Your making both medicas and cure3 worthless. There really is no way to make PI any better.

    Garbage wrapped in a bow is still garbage

    At least it has a cool animation....sorta
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by simiii View Post
    I don't like this idea. Your making both medicas and cure3 worthless. There really is no way to make PI any better.

    Garbage wrapped in a bow is still garbage

    At least it has a cool animation....sorta
    You'd think it'd be something that would build off Medica 1 or Cure 3.
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    The spell is cast on self automatically and targets anyone within 20y of you. This will make the spell at least more enjoyable to use in my book. Get rid of confessions and just let this ability use lilies. If you want to keep confessions in the game then allow it to proc on a 50% chance from Cure, Cure II, Cure 3, Medica and the initial heal from Medica 2 not the regen.
    Having this on a chance to proc off of med Would be a nice QoL change, I agree
    I don't really think it would make neither medicas nor cure 3 worthless, though? I mean, it's a proc. That as proposed by OP would be made available BY medica and cure 3? I don't understand how something that would make something else available is worthless.
    I would prefer to keep the confession stacks to having this consume lilies, though.
    I like the idea behind this thing tbh, would just like that as OP said if this could proc with our WHM aoe heals, even if on a lower chance than with cure/cure 2
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    Aiso J'fule
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Yeah it's hot garbage. I would totally be okay with them simply removing it and giving us nothing in return.

    Alternatively it would be decent if confessions would be allowed to exist with an infinite duration. That would be a pretty neat change.
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceoh View Post
    Yeah it's hot garbage. I would totally be okay with them simply removing it and giving us nothing in return.

    Alternatively it would be decent if confessions would be allowed to exist with an infinite duration. That would be a pretty neat change.
    That would be quite nice and actually make that skill even somewhat viable, but it would sadly still not change the fundamental problem the class faces: It can do nothing the other healers cannot do, often even better.
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    Lr'ron Shadowstar
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I think a simple fix is to go in the opposite direction. Rather than having it proc off of medica (and thus, potentially a sudden lump sum of confessions), make it proc off of regen ticks. Simply put it at a low rate. For example, a 5-10% chance per tick. If they want to keep it a single-target only ability, then exclude medica II's regen. I think overall, this would stick to the theme that they're trying to go for with confession stacking. In that it is a slow process that builds up throughout a fight, rather than a reliable mechanic that you can forcibly build into and use on demand.

    That is not to say I agree with the usefulness of confessions/Plenary Indulgence, but if they want us to use it while keeping its design mostly the same, this seems like the most sensible fix. I personally think that we don't need this sort of heal in our kit. Our mp efficiency and heals are strong enough as is. This might be a bit of a pipe dream, but I'd like to see Plenary Indulgence changed into an AoE stoneskin effect. Perhaps with lilies being consumed to make the effect stronger. Say 5%/10%/20%. Then slap on a long CD to balance it if that is too strong. Anyway, that's my two cents.
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Scrap the skill entirely.
    Replace with a Haste group buff that also reduces CDs.
    ???
    Profit
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    They should make confessions a 50% chance from cure/cure 2/tetra, a 30% chance from cure 3, and a 20% chance from medica/medica 2 (base)/assize, and a 10% chance from regen/medica 2/asylum ticks.
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