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    MichiKyou's Avatar
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    Mevra Noor
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 81

    [Scholar] Its time we talk about Selene

    Hey guys!

    I've been playing scholar since 2.0, and love the job. Everything from their university styled clothing and the cute spectacles. I just have one issue that has been griping with me since the release of heavensward.

    Selene


    Who is Selene? Selene is the other faerie that scholars have with the Summon II spell, she was initially the buff and support faerie that scholars had who could Buff Spell speed and attack speed. However, since the release of Astrologian, Selene has become a thing of memory. Something people summon only for the shits and gigs or for very specific content.

    Why do I have an issue with Selene? well, I don't, not really. I just really want her to be on par for usefulness as Eos is. Eos is a great well rounded healer with raid wide hots, heals and healing support.

    Selene has an AOE Esuna, a Silence and a 3% weapon skill inscrease buff. What I am suggesting to SE is that they readdress Selene, Heck, Maybe make scholars able to summon her in PVP again. Fey Wind needs to be seriously readjusted. The meta has changed, what is required of healers have changed.

    People want utility, but Selene is holding scholar back still.
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    man i hate eos so i always use selene lol. but she could use some buffs. make the silence something else because almost nothing can be silenced and increase fey wind's percentage a bit and we'd probably be fine.

    if we wanted to keep going the cc route with silent dusk, a stun would be nice. you can stun lots of stuff. but i think scrapping it as a cc ability entirely would probably be best.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Removing Silence and just giving it another buff, and upping Fey Wind to maybe 10% would be better.
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MichiKyou View Post
    Removing Silence and just giving it another buff, and upping Fey Wind to maybe 10% would be better.
    Yes, let's give a 10% party DPS boost to Scholar after they just took one away from AST. Sounds brilliant.
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    Yes, let's give a 10% party DPS boost to Scholar after they just took one away from AST. Sounds brilliant.
    Actually, they just took a 20% buff away and replaced it with a 10%, and a new different 10% buff.

    (Not arguing that 10% Fey Wind would be a good idea; I haven't thought much about what Selene could use. Just that your argument is wrong.)
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    Gulto Thanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    Actually, they just took a 20% buff away and replaced it with a 10%, and a new different 10% buff.

    (Not arguing that 10% Fey Wind would be a good idea; I haven't thought much about what Selene could use. Just that your argument is wrong.)
    To add to that... this is just Balance before they buffed it..
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    Actually, they just took a 20% buff away and replaced it with a 10%, and a new different 10% ~3% buff.
    Have we forgotten that a critical strike is not double damage, and therefore a critical strike increase is not an equivalent damage increase? Moreover, the multiplier was nerfed in 4.0. It's unlikely it'll even return to its previously base +50% this expansion. You now have a 10% added chance to deal up to a third more damage. Its strength would need to be nearly tripled to compete with Balance even now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Have we forgotten that a critical strike is not double damage, and therefore a critical strike increase is not an equivalent damage increase? Moreover, the multiplier was nerfed in 4.0. It's unlikely it'll even return to its previously base +50% this expansion. You now have a 10% added chance to deal up to a third more damage. Its strength would need to be nearly tripled to compete with Balance even now.
    And 10% weaponskill haste doesn't translate directly to 10% damage buff either. My point still stands.
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    Baptiste Sterling
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I have no problem with her AoE Esuna, but her other skills....way too weak to even matter.

    A 3% speed buff can't compare to an AoE regen, a healing % buff, and a magic % def buff. It just can't. Faeries (and summons in general) in this game are far too unresponsive to put something as critical (or even just as on-the-fly) as a silence or stun. The hit time has too much variance for it to be reliable. With Eos, you can use her skills to your advantage (and cohealer's advantage) and more than make up the dps for whatever 3% speed would give the party.

    A buff that increases shields placed on party members, a self-pet buff that changes a % of her embrace heals to a shield, literally anything that could play into that utility and dps theme selene. With Fey Wind, do something else. It's so neligible, and selene is honestly so underwhelming you could put her on sic and have her do her own thing and really barely notice it.
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