Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[Mature]

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

[Keridwyn]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

The only problem with Viera being introduced with Return to Ivalice is where it falls in the timeline. Yugiri introducing the Au'ra was less of an issue because it happened in ARR, even less of an issue because Doma was a confirmed place on the map. If Ivalice suddenly pops into reality because of the events of Stormblood and Viera were not native to Hydaelyn prior to that happening...that's an issue. Because that means either you'd either need to put the Viera behind the MSQ and not allow you you Fantasia into one until you've completed the quests, or you have to alter the timeline so that Ivalice appearing threw the Viera backwards in time.

[Paladinleeds]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

Another problem is side-quests (of which Return to Ivalice will be counted as one) can't influence shenanigans of the main scenario too much. A slight nod happened to it surrounding the Coils in the Main Scenario, but I think that's the only way they could tap into side-quests. Else, after a point you'd have to make Return to Ivalice be required to continue with the story if the Viera are so deeply tied to it. This is why I'm worried. It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

[Keridwyn]

It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

Or they could come from a far off land we have yet to travel to that has been cut off by a Garlean blockade they are only now starting to run in any great numbers. There are ways to work them into the story with plenty of foreshadowing and wiggle room for what's to come. Also it is called Return to Ivalice...I guess if they really wanted to do the shenanigans I was talking about earlier this may not be the first time Hydaelyn and Ivalice have touched before. Honestly, even if they are a beast race I'd be okay. A lot of the reason I love Viera isn't so much the race themselves but the classes they could be in FFTA.

Elementalist for life.

[Fredco191]

Although I don't mind Viera being in the game (I mean it's not like everyone has to be one when they come out.) Why not....

I mean- who wouldn't want to save Hydaelyn as Rodney Copperbottom?

[Nestama]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

It would be better to introduce Viera as a race (named differently) that has always existed on Hydaelyn and have them be from a land that has little to no lore on it (The New World, to the west of Eorzea) AND as I said before, have them start in their own city/town/village so their Eorzea introduction feels natural and not... awkward (Au Ra).

[Felis]

Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

[Lambdafish]

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

So... we aren't getting Viera because they died out completely in the 2nd astral era?

[Nestama]

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

And that of course implies that XII's and Tactics' Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn, when we know that's not the case at all (that might change with the Ivalice raid, but then we just go back to my main argument on how you can't make a race playable when they technically don't exist on the planet itself yet).