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  1. #41
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    Celef's Avatar
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
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    Agree with the idea, not the way it is said tho ^^"

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Gotta learn somehow.
    True, the issue is when your tank acts like a dick and start insulting you :/
    Been leveling my WHM recently the old fashion way, spamming dungeons, and god knows it was ugly when tanks decided they need to take biiiiiig pack every single time -_-
    When I'm max lvl and full stuff, no problem, but during lvling phase....pretty dangerous and stupid not to check your healer gear before doing that :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  2. #42
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Been leveling my WHM recently the old fashion way, spamming dungeons, and god knows it was ugly when tanks decided they need to take biiiiiig pack every single time -_-
    When I'm max lvl and full stuff, no problem, but during lvling phase....pretty dangerous and stupid not to check your healer gear before doing that :/
    I've been leveling both AST and WHM through dungeons (AST 70, WHM 68 now) and haven't had trouble with tanks doing big pulls on either... With an exception of a DRK who was pulling single groups in Shisui with level 61 gear and still having trouble with cooldown management and enmity, but that's 1 tank of so many. And I always DPS in addition to healing (in fact, as WHM I've often been the top or second DPS on both trash and the dungeon bosses...).

    I wonder what's causing trouble for others? I'm reading your comment as you're doing leveling dungeons undergeared, is that the issue? And if it is, why would you do that? I mean I was using level 60 gear (BiS from HW) until level 65, then upgraded with dungeon gear at levels 65 and 67, but that's been more than fine for me.
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    Last edited by Taika; 07-13-2017 at 06:57 PM.

  3. #43
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    Celef's Avatar
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
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    Wasn't undergeared (I did them so many times I have all full sets ^^") but some tanks were + not using def CDs :/
    Saw a PLD last night losing 80% of his health almost instantly on a big pack....the thing is, he already did this earlyer so my CDs were not up..... :/

    Of course they were not the only responsible for our death, I was still learning how to manage my CD properly with Lilies but you think dying once would be enought.....it's not apparently ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  4. #44
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Just wait until u see all the enemy names go red then you can cast regen. Spamming medica II when no one is getting hit is a waste of mp and your time, also putting regen on every single party member all the time, just, stop
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  5. #45
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    Lucke's Avatar
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I'm usually good about clicking off regen before I Shield Lob a pack, but sometimes I go into road mode and forget to do so. Not surprisingly, the healer gets aggro from the other 2-3 mobs I didn't Shield Lob. Not a big deal....except recently I've noticed healers run AWAY from me as I'm trying to get to those mobs...like, what? What does that accomplish? Kiting isn't a thing in this game. The mobs can hit you from like, 500 feet away. They must be going into "OH SHIT!" mode and panic.

    PROTIP: if a healer (or DPS) gets aggro from the tank, please do NOT run away from said tank like a chocobo with it's head cut off. Instead, run TO the tank so they can get aggro back without risking cleaving the other party members.
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  6. #46
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    i don't use regen before a pull and also not shortly before a trash pack dies. however, sometimes the trash dies that fast that the regen is still up when the tank runs into the next trash pack :\
    please tanks: don't do that, i don't want to tank. either wait the few seconds until the regen runs out or klick it off before pulling the next pack please.
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  7. #47
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    Seraphyna's Avatar
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    Sianne Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Kiting isn't a thing in this game. .
    Ever done Cutter's Cry? Kiting IS a thing.
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  8. #48
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    Ever done Cutter's Cry? Kiting IS a thing.
    A rare, situational thing.
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  9. #49
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    A rare, situational thing.
    Which is unfortunate, because using healer aggro for mechanics can be fun.

    Like during the golems in the Nael fight where a WHM would fluid aura one away and tank it with heal spam.
    Like during A2S where Eos could pop Whispering Dawn to draw all the newly-spawned sniper hate to the fairy instead of a healer.
    Like during A12s where a healer gets to tank a support bot in the portal.

    This game is actually kind of lacking in role subversion, probably because it lacks any form of notable crowd control, but when such abilities are required it's always interesting. I still wonder if we'll ever see a fight like t7 again where a BRD or SMN had to kite an add into position with binds and slows, or if there will ever be a reason to use sleep in a party.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 07-14-2017 at 04:04 AM.

  10. #50
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    Sylvaneste's Avatar
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    Kailani Rhys
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    HAHAHA! A tank complaining that a whm is actually using their skills. I main WHM, I cannot tell you how disgusted I am in a raid setting (24 man) and the main tank, who i have focus on, only has MY regen on him/her, but there are 4-5 whm in the raid.

    Fyi, I medica 2 before most bosses in raids, and every tank I run with, handles the aggro just fine. Dungeons, minor problem, just stand next to tank, and tank gets aggro. Honestly, only time i see it being an issue. Is if the tank sucks or is having dc issues.
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