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  1. #31
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I will throw a regen and you will like it.
    After all the tanks that feel the need to shotgun pull everything between bosses without a care in the world while your poor healer is spamming every oGCD they have to try and keep your god complex intact, if a simple regen hurts your ego so much, then you heal yourself because I am tired of spamming a million cure 2 per dungeons and being on constant watch for when their next oGCD is getting off CD so they can pop it as soon as possible to save your sorry *** for the 50th time this dungeon.

    I can't put regen on at any other timed during your Herculean pull because doing so will likely result in your death due to all my oGCD heals being on CD from the last pull, you selfish jerks.
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-13-2017 at 05:28 AM. Reason: censorship

  2. #32
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    After all the tanks that feel the need to shotgun pull everything between bosses without a care in the world while your poor healer is spamming every oGCD they have to try and keep your god complex intact, if a simple regen hurts your ego so much, then you heal yourself because I am tired of spamming a million cure 2 per dungeons and being on constant watch for when their next oGCD is getting off CD so they can pop it as soon as possible to save your sorry *** for the 50th time this dungeon.
    I don't think tanks are your issue...
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  3. #33
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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Then why mass pull in the first place ? If your healer is not used to it / not informed of course he will panic and shit will happen.
    Tanks always tell me "but it's fasteeeerrrrrr" yeah, we don't loose time at all coming back when they mass pull and we both can't handle it -_-
    Gotta learn somehow.
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  4. #34
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    Man, I'm happy if healers cast Regen at all. I'm so sick and tired of being paired up with WHM or AST in Susano or Lakshmi who don't know what Regen is.
    This is my experience. I actually have to switch to Diurnal Sect for HoTs because the WHMs I seem to get paired with don't know what HoTs are. And when I'm paired with another AST, they refuse to use A.Benefic or A.Helios. Like for the love of Hydaelyn use your HoTs.

    I finally snapped and said something to one WHM in Susano who wouldn't even bother putting a Regen on the MT. They proceeded to spam Medica II so much until they ripped aggro and ate a tankbuster to the face.
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  5. #35
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    With the loss of stoneskin, if you're going to mass pull, guess what I'm going to do? Yup, I am going to pre Regen your ass so you're not below 50% by the time you get to the gate leading to the boss. I suggest being a good tank, and use your AoE enmity generator during the pull instead of relying on lobbing and sight aggro like the bad tanks do.

    How and when I cast my Regen's is entirely dependent on the skill and gear of the tank, and if you can't keep aggro from a Regen tick, you're going to have serious problem when I let out a barrage of holys and assize.
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  6. #36
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    DO NOT CAST Regen on your tank as s/he is about to pull. Unless of course, you are in the mood to solo tank.

    If you are lucky, your tank may know to use /statusoff, but don't count on it.

    That is all. Bye.
    Right clicking is a lot faster than the text command. But yeah it's a bit annoying to have up before a pull.
    I'll click it off me, I won't bother waiting for it to wear off everyone else.
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  7. #37
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    With the loss of stoneskin, if you're going to mass pull, guess what I'm going to do? Yup, I am going to pre Regen your ass so you're not below 50% by the time you get to the gate leading to the boss.
    Why not just cure 1 / 2 the tank between groups (after tank has hit everything with something once)? It's what I do.
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  8. #38
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Why not just cure 1 / 2 the tank between groups (after tank has hit everything with something once)? It's what I do.
    If it's necessary, then I will. Nothing I do is set in stone.
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  9. #39
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Tank here.

    Feel free to Regen on the pull as long as you know how to gather mobs to the tank while it's in route to the easiest possible gathering point for said mobs without taking significant health loss (enough to be accidentally killed by a cleave, random-target ability, or AoE that you may lag too much to exit). This usually involves Regen-ing yourself first. That said, this only saves one GCD of healing time in the fight itself. That's significant if the fight will end more quickly than would make another Regen useful. But should you fail to gather mobs appropriately (generally just by stacking on your tank's while pulling), the second or two lost in the gather will more than outweigh this.

    What healing you can delay to between the pulls you can and should do between the pulls instead. That often means using Regen, as you now have no more access to sprint than the tank. If a WHM, you may wish to Cure II to gather one Lily at the end of the previous pull. The time spent out of Holy range will allow you to advance towards the next pack, reducing the time by which you'll arrive late if you need to make a second heal, and allowing for Divine Benison.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-13-2017 at 10:41 AM. Reason: typos; OCD

  10. #40
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    OcieKo's Avatar
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Yup, I am going to pre Regen your ass so you're not below 50% by the time you get to the gate leading to the boss.
    That just means your tank sucks at pulling, they should be at 75% or more if theyre mass pulling right and not doing that god awful stop and aoe for every pack, should only be taking at most 1-2 auto-attacks from any given mob before they finish pulling. Run, keep running, ranged sttack while running, aoe while running and passing pack (include jumping on WAR to not turn and slow down), rinse repeat until final pack to be pulled, pop CD, run thru pack aoe enmity, stop 180, spam aoe enmity. 2 parts for some god awful reason many tanks just fail at, nonstop advance til the last pack, and for some stupid reason, not turning the mobs away from the group.
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