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  1. #10831
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Okay, this is something I don't understand(possibly because I play on PS4, and haven't touched a PC version). But why do people, when needing to move in a fight you can run off the edge in, use auto run? Is it on automatically for PC? I know for PS4 you need to already be moving, then tap L1 to turn it on.
    One of the default settings for autorun on the keyboard is the "R" key. You know, the one right next to "strafe right". The one you can very easily hit on accident if your fingers get moved around at all while fiddling through your rotation. I switched mine to ctrl+r, and i havent accidently run anywhere since. But before that? It happened a few times.
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  2. #10832
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    LelenaLena's Avatar
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    Character
    Lena Qerel
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    This is not a Duty Finder story, but it did take place during an instanced fight. My static was down a member last night for our weekly raid night, and with the lag spikes, we decided that trying to do Lak/Susy with a random wasn't going to be worth it. Instead, we decided to do some HW EX primals unsynced, since a few people are still missing birbs.

    Our story starts part way through our second run of Thordan EX. During the part where the 3 knights dash across the field, one of our DPS hits his auto-run key. We all watch as his caracter jogs into the middle of the arena, and gets obliterated by the 3 knights. We were all laughing hysterically at this, and then I got a diabolical idea.
    Before the next run, I asked in chat for my group to pick a number between 1 and 10. The same DPS from above decides to be "smart" and picks 12. I respond with "...ok, you win. Your prize is coming soon", and discretely swap in Rescue on my hotbar.
    We get to the same point in the fight, just after the middle knight does the room wide AoE. I pop sprint, and dash across the arena. Upon reaching the middle of the arena, I target the "smart" DPS, use Rescue, and dash forward to a safe spot. Everyone, including the "smart" DPS, take a moment to process what happened, and then we all started laughing. For the remainder of the night, my co-healer and I made a game of seeing how many ways we can kill a person using rescue without causing a full wipe. The DPS and Tanks enjoyed it, as they were actively looking out for ways of preventing it or reducing the effect, and it was a nice change of pace from the monotony of running the same fight many times.

    Also, I wasn't totally evil with my rescue, as I did use it to save the same DPS from before from dying, after he failed to turn away from Dragon's Gaze, and ran into the outer wall.
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  3. #10833
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Earlier today I did the Leveling Queue as healer, got Doma Castle and the first tank got to the first group of mobs, we defeated them and then noticed the BLM was still back at the starting point. So he says something about feeling insulted and leaves and I'm like ... he decided to bail without even giving the BLM a minute. So whoever was lead decides to get another tank, and we get one like within 30 seconds, and run continues , oh but this new tank has never tanked this duty before... or even been in it.

    So keep in mind that the BLM is a mentor and doesn't actually say anything to the tank at all except "use flash" , when we get to the second boss we wipe, and I ask if the tank has ever tanked this before. Usually I check the tank's gear when I think they're having hard time holding enmity or way too squishy (this tank was both) and see pieces of level 60 and 67 gear. This was Doma castle (level 67) so yeah they're a little undergeared, but this is fine, as long as the DPS don't try to pull things.

    I can typically keep up when tanks to larger pulls, so healing a somewhat undergeared tank is viable as long as both DPS are able to kill the mobs fast enough. However because the tank couldn't hold enmity very long, the mobs kept breaking away and going after the BLM. This is a point I've said before, is that when other players outgear the tank, the tank will have a hard time holding enmity. The BLM could have access to both Diversion and Lucid Dreaming (not that they need either) so they could use that.

    I then go on Main Scenario as Paladin, and get the party that doesn't listen. I knew things were about to go sideways when I pulled the mobs away from the Magitek Teleporter and the the WHM tries to heal the teleporter.

    What's wrong with this image?


    I tried to tell the other tank to use Sword Oath. No response. White mage, is either bloody casting Medica II repeatedly before the pull, or pulling the boss.

    Fortunately, as always this dungeon is too easy, so nobody else says anything.
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  4. #10834
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I tried to tell the other tank to use Sword Oath. No response. White mage, is either bloody casting Medica II repeatedly before the pull, or pulling the boss.

    Fortunately, as always this dungeon is too easy, so nobody else says anything.
    Had a similar situation, in the same dungeon actually, last night when I did my Main Scenario Rou. Other PLD started in Shied Oath, so I went Sword. Get through Teleporter, and because other tank was still up above, I put on shield and pull those mobs. He comes down as we finish them, so I switch back to sword. Fast forward to first boss. We start, he has agro, few seconds later I have it. Look at my stance, yup sword still(would like to point out that at this point I was 67, using i270 everywhere except weapon - i275 relic). Look at party list, other tank is in sword also. So I go shield. Other tank goes shield. This continues for EVERY fight through the rest of the dungeon until the last three fights where I just stay in sword and keep agro. Didn't bother looking at other tanks gear/level though, so it could be he was just way under geared compared to me...but the stance matching is what got me.
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  5. #10835
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    So just curious... are people incapable of beating Sus EX before enrage? Every group I get can't seem to get passed enrage. O_o It doesn't help when the freaking tanks don't move so they get blasted by lightning while being MT. I would love to help with the DPS but I can't let our tank die!
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  6. #10836
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Character
    Aiot O'lein
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    are people incapable of beating Sus EX before enrage? Every group I get can't seem to get passed enrage.
    I'm a bit confused by the question... Since Susan's enrage is insta wipe, you mean the groups gets to see enrage once before clearing on the 2nd attempt? Or you mean your own enrage from tanks eating lightning??

    If the later, I feel your pain, even tho I'm a melee it does bother me to see Tanks not moving from their position when lightning comes :/
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  7. #10837
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    Jijifli Kokofli
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Got a Samurai in my dungeon today. He decided he wanted to use meditate instead of hitting the boss, basically standing there for 10 seconds doing no damage.

    By the end of the dungeon, I gave him a tip, in order to maybe not just help his damage output, but the enjoyment of the job (Standing around in the first 10 seconds of a fight is boring af.)

    The return? Told to shut it because I used Eye for an eye. And people worder why I'd rather do dps in content than heal it...
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  8. #10838
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    I'm a bit confused by the question... Since Susan's enrage is insta wipe, you mean the groups gets to see enrage once before clearing on the 2nd attempt? Or you mean your own enrage from tanks eating lightning??

    If the later, I feel your pain, even tho I'm a melee it does bother me to see Tanks not moving from their position when lightning comes :/
    My question was can people actually not hit enrage. The lightning bit was added as an example as to why it is some time difficult, as a healer, to contribute to damage. It was mostly hyperbole as I know people are capable of beating Sus, but I've seen the enrage too many times now.
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  9. #10839
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Okay... someone explain to me please why it is so hard to gear yourself up with ilvl255/260 gear before entering any SB-dungeon. I'm drowing in poetics, quests are throwing gear at you, there are dirt-cheap gear-sets on the marketboard (because the quests are throwing stuff at people they dont need), NPC-vendors are selling NQ-gear... so... there are plenty of cheap, easy options. Gearing up to 260 is really not hard or time-consuming and it should easly last you til level 65, maybe 67 assuming you get dungeon-drops on the way.

    And yet people seem to try their hardest to avoid it:
    I just did a run of Shisui on my warrior and I had the following company:
    1) A samurai who was only wearing one ring - the ultima-ring even, mind you. Meaning: he could have easly gotten a shire-ring.
    2) The SMN who was rocking their ilvl230(!)-relic-book... seriously? Bringing any weapon below ilvl255 into a SB-dungeons feels almost insulting to me now, seeing how easy it is to get at least ilvl255 (or actually ilvl260 - just. buy. the. damn. shire. thing.) - for me thats saying "Hey, I didnt care enough about you and your time to take 2 minutes of mine and get an appropriate weapon"
    3) The healer - mostly okay, but ilvl240 for head and shoes. No biggy. Except... the first boss drops new shoes for them, they roll on those and dont equip them...? I ask about it and the response is "I'll do that after the dungeon" - but... why? Unless your arsenal is overflowing its literally one click. And even IF your arsenal is overflowing like mine I still manage to do it between pulls. I even waited a bit before pulling the last boss, wanting to see if the healer might just needed a bit longer - but nope. Rather wait til after the dungeon to gear up.

    ...I just dont get it - sure, you dont need to be BiS-highlevel-endgear for leveling dungeons and I'm not asking for that at all. But expecting everyone to be ilvl260 in Shisui seems resonable enough to me...? Why do people care so little? >.<
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  10. #10840
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    Rhymenoserous's Avatar
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    Sayyida Al'hura
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Let me tell you about my "Honest healer" POTD. POTD.
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