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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CartherineZero View Post
    Hes in for a rude awakening similar to 1.0 when he realizes this kind of content delivery and design is stale and boring and will cause a huge loss in player-base once something better releases.
    Considering the profit FFXIV has brought Square Enix over the last four years-- enough to fund two of their biggest titles, FFXV and FFVII: Remake. I don't think people have got the memo to start unsubbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Considering the profit FFXIV has brought Square Enix over the last four years-- enough to fund two of their biggest titles, FFXV and FFVII: Remake. I don't think people have got the memo to start unsubbing.
    Do you really think that FFXIV alone funded these games? Stop believing FFXIV is some kind of savior for SE.
    They pop lazy games, mobile games and remakes left and right to make easy money (FFXIV included), to release more lazy games to make more easy money. Square Enix is only using the name Final Fantasy knowing that, stupid as we are, we will buy everything, they've been releasing terrible games for the past few years, again FFXIV included.
    Remove the name and no one would be here, FFXIV would have vanished into the abyss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanfrano View Post
    Do you really think that FFXIV alone funded these games? Stop believing FFXIV is some kind of savior for SE.
    Maybe not entirely, but if it isn't then why they bothered to rework it from scratch and relaunch it? I'm fairly certain they could've kept it as it is since hardcore fans enjoyed it and even defended it to a certain degree (to each their own, but objectively speaking it had issues) and they could've just kept it shut down for all they cared. It's fair to assume that they wanted their money worth and decided to rework for that reason only and for what I remember, they were in bankruptcy at the time.

    And for all I know, they did get their money back and now they're just pushing enough content to keep enough people subbed, with the occasional expansion to get even more cash. And people say they did it as an apology...now THAT'S a lie.

    Hey I might be wrong, but ARR still felt the most packed when it comes to content despite its shallow launch.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 07-13-2017 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanfrano View Post
    Remove the name and no one would be here, FFXIV would have vanished into the abyss.
    This is maybe going a bit far. FFXIV is not that bad. If it be, many people would play other game as some F2P instead. I return to FFXIV because some other MMO are even worse

    That being said, I didn't had hype for SB expecting some routine in the pattern and... unfortunatly it is. Levelling is always the same. Colors and apparences changes but we always do basically the same things.

    Housing is broken, we miss some kind of random unexpected fun in the open world and dungeons are very very linear.

    If F2P were that fantastic they would have a greater success. But they all turn to P2F when not P2W and glamour is most of time just prohibitive.

    (Now with my little experience, there are some good ideas to take in FFXIV, RO, BDO, Aion and Wildstar to build a great MMO)

    People suggest maybe players who feel like a lack of something should take a break in the game, are too starved and it is their fault to rush. As someone who don't especially rush, there is something missing in the game anyway.

    Why always 4/8/24 players teams? Can't they try other formats? 3/5/6/12 for example? People will not unsubscribe for one trial with an other format. SE changes the environment but never the player schema.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 07-13-2017 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanfrano View Post
    Do you really think that FFXIV alone funded these games? Stop believing FFXIV is some kind of savior for SE.
    They pop lazy games, mobile games and remakes left and right to make easy money (FFXIV included), to release more lazy games to make more easy money. Square Enix is only using the name Final Fantasy knowing that, stupid as we are, we will buy everything, they've been releasing terrible games for the past few years, again FFXIV included.
    Remove the name and no one would be here, FFXIV would have vanished into the abyss.
    While I agree that they went off track and are nowhere near as stellar as they were in the 90s. The FFXIV series post 1.0 have been getting in the upper 80s with SB sitting at 90 right now. As far as what funds what? Who knows?

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/plays...xiv-stormblood
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