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    Dedicated theory crafters can blow the devs out of the water. The problem is the devs in every game are super stubborn and will never explain the real reason why they make certain changes. It probably stings really fierce when a player can show you how stupid you are so it's eaiser to just tell the player to stfu and deal with. Cause in the end there is little we can do.

    Assuming the devs have the same info then they should be able to see why some melee or other classes are suffering and with feedback can fix it. Instead we get yoshi telling us DRG provide amazing group damage when we can eaisly prove otherwise. I want to know what his data is showing how great we are. Cause the only time I see DRG doing close to a SAM or others is when they get balance at like 80%+ uptime and the SAM isn't in that party.
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    Ciel Wintermere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparhwk View Post
    Dedicated theory crafters can blow the devs out of the water. The problem is the devs in every game are super stubborn and will never explain the real reason why they make certain changes. It probably stings really fierce when a player can show you how stupid you are so it's eaiser to just tell the player to stfu and deal with. Cause in the end there is little we can do.

    Assuming the devs have the same info then they should be able to see why some melee or other classes are suffering and with feedback can fix it. Instead we get yoshi telling us DRG provide amazing group damage when we can eaisly prove otherwise. I want to know what his data is showing how great we are. Cause the only time I see DRG doing close to a SAM or others is when they get balance at like 80%+ uptime and the SAM isn't in that party.
    you talked like you fully understand their design environment and constraints
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelvinK View Post
    you talked like you fully understand their design environment and constraints
    After you watch games develop over the years you get a good idea of how devs work if not how they think. When you see them take a class that's ahead and drop it to the bottom or vise versa in the span of a month then you know bullshit is happening. Constraints only have meaning when you're doing new things. Constraints happen when making a dungeon, new monsters, dialogue for story, animation or adding new skills. You know hings that actually take a ton of time to work on cause they are creating something new.

    Minor changes like potency numbers, buff timers, stat changes and the like are not constraints. Those are dials they tune up or down with little thought or effort. And misuse of those dials can change the power of a class from a god to a child on the dev's whims.
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparhwk View Post
    After you watch games develop over the years you get a good idea of how devs work if not how they think. ...And misuse of those dials can change the power of a class from a god to a child on the dev's whims.
    Unfortunately, its not always a Dev's decision that determines how a class (de)evolves over the course of a game's lifetime. There is always those above them calling the shots and more often than not the Dev's, regardless of whether or not they agree, will have to follow those orders. Without being there, its wrong to put the blame solely on them simply because they write the code.

    It's like when gamer's blame the bugs in the game on the QA resource - more often than not, the QA found those bugs and those above them chose to ignore them.
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