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  1. #3571
    Player
    Jeibird's Avatar
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    Auriel Neor
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    sprint
    most of this wankery is deserving of ire but I have to ask as an open ended question: what's with the sudden hatred for Sprint? several classes got cool new running animation and now costs no tp to use, not that healers had to worry about that part anyway

    sprinting allows for faster travel time at no cost which reduces time spent in dungeon so..... what's wrong with it
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  2. #3572
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    inhaledcorn's Avatar
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    Character
    Elliot Cloverfield
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeibird View Post
    most of this wankery is deserving of ire but I have to ask as an open ended question: what's with the sudden hatred for Sprint? several classes got cool new running animation and now costs no tp to use, not that healers had to worry about that part anyway

    sprinting allows for faster travel time at no cost which reduces time spent in dungeon so..... what's wrong with it
    Tanks doing it immediately as the gate drops without waiting for protect and grabs every mob from start to the first wall.
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  3. #3573
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    Truffledots's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Stephen Vishanti
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    More- Shinryu, had new people in the group who were learning mechanics. Healers complained after a wipe that people need to 'stop wasting their MP' getting hit by stuff. No advice given, just a wipe and then bitching everyone out who took damage. Which was pretty much everyone, actually, including themselves.

    Dps LB too early, Shinryu is alive still and then because everyone expected it to die they all get tidal waved off the side because we neglect to dodge. Okay, all our mistake for ignoring it on assumption it would die before it went off.

    Still, this attitude of blaming everyone who made even one mistake in content not everyone has even cleared yet just because YOU have cleared it 15 times for duty roulette is making me not want to play this game.

    This isn't even EX content, it's storyline stuff that WILL have newbies who WILL make mistakes.

    If you want flawless clears use PF, if you're doing roulette accept that there may be at least one wipe and some new guys in there. People need to take their elitist 'no mistakes allowed' attitude out of Duty Finder story mode content.
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    Last edited by Truffledots; 07-13-2017 at 05:07 PM. Reason: Additional text.

  4. #3574
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Character
    Honinbo Dosaku
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    Had a particularly awesome roulette vs Shinryu yesterday. I enter, notice 5 players watch the cutscene and thought "this is gonna be bad".

    Couldn't have been more wrong, as we actually killed it on the first pull. And even more surprising, at the end of the fight, it wasn't 5 players watching cutscenes anymore, but 7.

    I was obviously the only one to have cleared it before, some had practiced, and the other had certainly watched a video.

    That was probably one of the most pleasant experience I have ever had as a healer.
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  5. #3575
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    Anarism's Avatar
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    Character
    Angel Knight
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 61
    Leveling Roulette gave me a Vault. Always a fun dungeon with nothing that can go wrong, I thought, until I learned at the first pack that the DRK thought one Unleash per pull is totally fine in a group with a RDM and SAM. I should've bailed then but figured I can carry a bad tank.

    So all that happened after this red flag is really my fault because soon after the squishlord SAM with less HP than even me started facetanking AoEs.

    When we reached Grinnaux apparently the RDM thought it was his moment in the spotlight and just got cozy right next to a void portal to accrue vuln stacks. For the entire fight. The results are predictable, as is who he ended up blaming.
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    Last edited by Anarism; 08-09-2017 at 10:57 PM.

  6. #3576
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    Xruxis's Avatar
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    Character
    Jorel Vorj
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 58
    I guess my story would be when I was around the lvl 40s, I play AST, I've only been playing the game for 3-4 months and new to healing roles. I went in to a dungeon with the Roulette and this tank would pick up the whole room, and didn't even keep full ADDs on him so I ended up dying and then so did he, I then asked him if we could go a bit slower and I said don't pick up such large group if you can't keep up with the adds, he agreed said ok that's fine, next thing I know I've been kicked from the party, ever since that I just don't say anything anymore if we all die I just apologize even if it is the tanks fault which tends to be most of the time, but I've also had great runs with amazing tanks that just hit everything right.
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  7. #3577
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    Seraphyna's Avatar
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    Character
    Sianne Rose
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 31
    One of the tanks in my raid group decided to change from PLD to WAR ( yay >.>)

    Always in deliverance. Wonders why he's always getting hit like a ninja without utesemi. I wonder why... But "muh fell cleaves".

    If one hit takes half your life, you're tanking wrong. If the next following hit makes you almost dead, you may want to change jobs. There is this thing called tank stance and CD's.

    Taking more damage than you need to, standing in AoE's, making the party stand in AoE's, not turning the boss, cleaving the party just so you can get your "5-6 fell cleaves"... just no. Always the excuse "I gotta get my fell cleaves".

    I've put up with this crap before, not doing it again. I value my sanity. Good luck finding a replacement healer to do 70ish% of the healing and more DPS than the other healer.
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  8. #3578
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    Dregenfox's Avatar
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    Character
    Adaire Crimson
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeibird View Post
    most of this wankery is deserving of ire but I have to ask as an open ended question: what's with the sudden hatred for Sprint? several classes got cool new running animation and now costs no tp to use, not that healers had to worry about that part anyway

    sprinting allows for faster travel time at no cost which reduces time spent in dungeon so..... what's wrong with it
    It's mostly an issue of playstyle. Most of those healers are more casual and less focused on efficiency, so when a tank sprints right after a protect cast and starts pulling a bunch of stuff it gets uncomfortable or they might feel overwhelmed. Sprint before allowed them to catch up to the tank quickly and allow more of a buffer time.

    Other healers get angry when a tank doesn't pull wall to wall while having sprint on cd...would help if the tank establishes expectations of what they want form the bat but no one ever does it in DF.
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    Last edited by Dregenfox; 08-10-2017 at 03:13 AM.

  9. #3579
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    Mossk's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Moss Kequelle
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    hey there kiddos, who's ready for a story?

    part 1 because i wrote a novel

    q'd up for my leveling roulette as WHM60 because I'm gunning for that Goddess of Magic title. get To-To Rak, grimace, shrug, accept my fate. alert that there's at least one new player, grimace, shrug, accept my fate. take a peek at my party members and surmise that it's likely the tank (GLD27, no other classes leveled).

    dungeon fires up, and right from the get go we start having... problems. tank doesn't seem to be able to grab aggro on all the mobs, and the RDM(52) is tanking pretty often. he's new, I figure, so cut him some slack. then I look behind us and realize that the SMN(31) isn't with the party, he's still back at spawn and hard casting summon... II. huh. he then cancels the summon immediately and sends back Topaz Carbuncle, so I figure it must be a mistake. then he proceeds to not summon anything and just solo dps the next few mobs. before summoning topaz again. and sending it away again.
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  10. #3580
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    Mossk's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Moss Kequelle
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    part 2

    I now check the SMN's levels and see he doesn't have any additional classes either, so maybe he doesn't know much about it. so I ask.

    Me: are you having summon trouble? 0:

    [no response]


    dungeon goes on, we limp through the first boss and he's got topaz back out. so this time I offer advice straight up.

    Me: [SMN], Topaz is the tank carry, so Summon I is probably a better choice for a dungeon :D

    [no response]

    well ok then

    this drags on and as I start to notice that I'm tanking more and more often, I also come to the horrifying realization that the tank isn't just having trouble, he's not using Flash. At all. we're pulling 4 monster mobs and the tank's on one and of the other 3, two are on me and one is on the RDM. I am officially tanking better than both our tank and Topaz Carbuncle. so this time I talk to the tank.

    Me: [GLD], you might want to use Flash early on after pulling :D

    [no response]
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