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  1. #11
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scox View Post
    I'm sorry but white mages have nothing to complain about right now given the state scholars are in. Count your blessings and enjoy being meta for the moment.
    WHM is better than SCH ATM, yes. Why does that mean all their issues should be ignored?
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  2. #12
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scox View Post
    I'm sorry but white mages have nothing to complain about right now given the state scholars are in. Count your blessings and enjoy being meta for the moment.
    This isn't because a class has more problem than others that it means people should ignore it.
    We don't care about the meta honestly. The goal right now is to fix EVERY classes problem so they are approximately equal and balanced but by keeping their playstyle intact.

    For WHM, right now, is the uselesness of plenary indulgence and the lilies system that are poorly designed.
    And no one will say it's fine because of scholar's problem.

    Think about it twice next time before saying things like this.
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    Just playing devil's advocate here on the side of Scox, being the meta healer in HW does seem to be what lead to us never getting Dissipation reworked. So... yeah, that's a thing.
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  4. #14
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    Scox Littletoes
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    Perhaps you guys missed the sarcasm, I really could care less if someone posts a complaint about WHM, legitimate or otherwise. I was only making a jab at the fact that WHM is in a really good spot right now and SCH is not. Tongue in cheek and all.
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  5. #15
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Benediction animation delay isn't a problem, i was totally made on purpose because it's a big and powerful skill, just Hallowed ground or living dead for tanks.
    Yes, it's too bad nobody can see this as a game design choice (for balance).
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    Yes, it's too bad nobody can see this as a game design choice (for balance).
    What exactly is so good about Benediction that it needs a delay on it to balance it out?
    A full heal is nothing special in this game anymore, especially now that Cleric Stance isn't a thing.
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  7. #17
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scox View Post
    I really could care less if someone posts a complaint about WHM.
    Legitimate concerns are legitimate irrespective of how over/undertuned the class might be. IMO AST has quite a significant number of issues and niggles that could do with being addressed, refusing to acknowledge those concerns just because another job is down in the dumps is a bit silly really.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    maybe that's why I've never seen this brought up before, but it has a huge delay with its heal.
    You're not wrong there, it's a pretty sizeable delay isn't it, it shares a fairly similar swinging animation to Bene so I assume it's related to that =(

    Personally I don't think it's as glaring as Benediction (and certainly not as annoying as Earthly Star) because as Vanile adds, it's just not used in anything like the same manner. It's too infrequent to be dependable and too short lived to be pocketed as an emergency heal or second Tetra as is. There's a good chance it'll see more use once savage hits but even so I expect I'll still simply be throwing it off the back of a GCD the moment I can use it without wasting it so the delay doesn't really bother me.

    On a sidenote, I did an Omega turn yesterday where we literally cast 2 cures between us for the entire 6 minute fight. Everything else was Regens and oGCDs =/
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    see more use when Savage hits
    The thing about that is... you can't control how much use it sees! That's the worst part about it. Even if it would be very useful in Savage content, we can't do anything to make it more useable.

    It's such a shame, because I could see the ability having some uses as a pocket heal, but the timer and inconsistencies kill it.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 07-14-2017 at 03:19 AM.

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