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  1. #41
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    Riyshn's Avatar
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    50 for one? So, every two minutes (outside the opener), since that's two Aetherflow uses, we get one extra Aetherflow?
    I know I saw in one of the threads here someone suggested changing up Dissipation so that it consumes the Fairy Gauge and restores 1/2/3 Aetherflow stacks for 50/80/100 points, instead of killing the fairy, which I liked.
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  2. #42
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    I know I saw in one of the threads here someone suggested changing up Dissipation so that it consumes the Fairy Gauge and restores 1/2/3 Aetherflow stacks for 50/80/100 points, instead of killing the fairy, which I liked.
    It's... kind of a direct nerf to Dissipation as it is now. Sure, you dismiss the fairy, but you get 3 Aetherflow stacks automatically.
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  3. #43
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    Deox Rioux
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 80
    They need to just treat Dissipation as the DPS tool that it is if they want to keep it consuming the fairy. Screw the healing up, none of a sch's main healing tools get the bonus from it, swap the healing bonus with a 15-20% dmg bonus
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  4. #44
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deox View Post
    They need to just treat Dissipation as the DPS tool that it is if they want to keep it consuming the fairy. Screw the healing up, none of a sch's main healing tools get the bonus from it, swap the healing bonus with a 15-20% dmg bonus
    It wasn't meant to be a DPS tool. It was meant to be a panic button like Benediction was, but the meta just evolved to make it a DPS tool since its healing benefits were so laughably stupid and went against everything the SCH wants to that the extra Aetherflow just became extra Energy Drain.
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  5. #45
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I had a thought recently about Dissipation. I noticed that, besides all of the other things that SCHs lack compared to the other healers; yet they still nerfed the hell out of us, but we don't have a simultaneous Heal and Attack, Why not turn Dissipation into that. And it could change some depending on the fairy that is out. WHM has 300 in both and AST has either 150/540 or 200/720 (jeez) and both are on a 60 second CD, so to start the CD of Dissipation would change. With Eos it could be a larger heal with a "smaller" attack, like 200/700, and with Selene it could be a larger attack and a smaller heal with a Shield, (GIVE US MORE SHIELDS ALREADY), like 300/400+Shield.

    I also feel the fey gauge should charge per heal, cause only Artherflow skills makes it fill to slow and it depletes too fast, plus that tether, it needs a boost. Also, to be more inline with out play style the only main "new" skill I would completely change is Excognition. SCH is the only healer without an instant "Buff" skill, WHM has Regen and AST Aspected Benefic. SCHs have been asking for ages for more shielding options since we are supposed to be the shield healers, well well whats going on with that. Change Excognition to a Spell that creates and instant Shield for maybe 25% of the SCH max HP. It's just a Shield no Heal attached. SCH are supposed to be the DPS/Mitigation Healer and as o right now that identity was lost/stolen, hopefully SE can get it back for us.

    Rundown
    • DPS-We need more AOE, on par with Holy and Gravity, either the Bane nerfs have to go or we need a new AoE spell.
    • Mitigation-We are supposed to be the Mitigation Healer, able to shield our allies and DPS because of it. Basically we need more Shield options and better Shields as a whole.
    • Fairy-Place a little more emphasis on the fairy. Like AST Sects why not give us a buff for using one, or at least bring her healing back to what it was; right now its as powerful as a Succor which means nothing. I don't notice if she is missing or not, aside from her extra skills (which could be argued as good or bad) but in my opinion I should notice she is missing, I noticed it prior to 4.0.
    • Selene-2 of here skills need a rework, Silent Dusk is useless, maybe change it into a pure shield. And Fey Wind has little return compared to other comparable skills like the Arrow, maybe change that to a 5% increase to both sped and attack?
    • Excognition-Right now this skill is a waste, since you have to strain yourself to make sure it goes off otherwise you'll waste an Aetherflow Stack. Change it to another shield option, and instant spell to match with Regen and Aspected Benefic and make it cost MP on par with those skills. It could even be another skill to use the Fairy gauge
    • Dissipation-This skill is pointless now as it fights the Fey Union skill. Why not change it into a SCH Enkindle or their version of an attack/heal combo, that changes depending on the fairy; Eos: smaller attack/larger heal, Selene: larger attack/smaller heal+shield (hey look more shields, its almost like shields are our thing)
    • Fairy Gauge-The gauge charges too slow, and needs more uses. Maybe make it charge per heal besides just Aetherflow. if SCH is played correctly we shouldn't be spamming heals anyway. Look at the SAM Kenki Gauge that's a good model
    • Fey Union-Not a bad skill but the tether length needs to be fixed or have the fairy follow the target. I've seen her fly to the target and then fly back to me so it should be possible.
    • Sustain-Lets be real for both SMN and SCH this should not of been removed.
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  6. #46
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    It's... kind of a direct nerf to Dissipation as it is now. Sure, you dismiss the fairy, but you get 3 Aetherflow stacks automatically.
    It's a nerf to Dissipation in one way, but also removes the part that makes using it so punishing. It also adds some decision making to the Fairy Gauge; do you want to spend the whole thing on Aetherflow stacks, or keep it for focused tank healing for an upcoming mechanic?
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