AST issues and Healer role

[Cyrocco]

Regens stack, and two ASTs in Noct don't get to mix shields, either. (And hey; it happens sometimes when you're both trying to switch!) Cards are unique to ASTs, and I don't think it's really comparable to the other two jobs.

I know why it was removed -- for the gauge -- but I do wish we could get some kind of indicator.

1.) That's a stupid mistake and not standard play. 2.) Regens don't save weakened party members from huge raid damage.

The only reason Shields and Regens aren't unique to SCH and WHM respectively, is because we took them.

[AlphaSonic]

1.) That's a stupid mistake and not standard play. 2.) Regens don't save weakened party members from huge raid damage.

The only reason Shields and Regens aren't unique to SCH and WHM respectively, is because we took them.

Brink of death doesnt reduce HP

[Cyrocco]

Brink of death doesnt reduce HP

Freshly revived party members don't revive with full HP. Shields assist the tank in reestablishing aggro without instantly dying again.

Futhermore: Vulnerability.

[ilea]

I don't know. I really don't think ASTs losing the ability to see each other's cards was a balance decision. We already had that in the fact that cards do not stack, so the loss of visibility is not an issue that affects real time gameplay, as regens and shields do.

[Tonjiar]

I've posted on this type of topic before, and I maintain my position that the point is not to heal with another AST.......

Irate? No you just sound jaded, bitter, and a tid bit childish about where you think AST is in compared to the other two healers are performing. I'm not saying which healer I think is the the top dog because that isn't the point of this thread and I personally don't care. I'm not saying the other healers are or are not doing well or have their own share of complaints to what can be done with their own systems, but you sure will and it shows.

Also as per the ASTs throw fits everywhere... you're the one posted on this type of topic ... again by the looks of your own words? Seems like that's you throwing a bit of a fit "everywhere".

As you seemed to reply over and again to this thread I'm sure you'll read this and come up with "the most well written of replies" to defend your healer ideology but lets try to focus here and not derail the thread. It's a system of RNG, one that I like a lot. Removing a buff to change from a aoe to a single target card is not RNG, that's using the AST toolkit to the best possible way. If the point is to not heal with another of the same class then we shouldn't be matched in a roulette with the same job.

[Cyrocco]

/Snip.

I don't really need to argue with you, given that the majority of the playerbase sides with me, but if you're going to hop straight into personal insults, and fail to counter with even a simple valid argument, I do feel the need to point that out. Thus far, every point I've made has been more feasible than yours, as your argument, and those like it, stem from one thing: "I want buffs, and I don't want anything to change."

[Cyrocco]

As you seemed to reply over and again to this thread I'm sure you'll read this and come up with "the most well written of replies" to defend your healer ideology but lets try to focus here and not derail the thread. It's a system of RNG, one that I like a lot. Removing a buff to change from a aoe to a single target card is not RNG, that's using the AST toolkit to the best possible way. If the point is to not heal with another of the same class then we shouldn't be matched in a roulette with the same job.

Oh look, we fixed it in post. No, that was a system of RNG without consequence. This is a system of RNG with one consequence As for your statement regarding tweaking the match system so that two of any healer isn't allowed, I'd approve of such a system wholeheartedly.

[Cyrocco]

I don't know. I really don't think ASTs losing the ability to see each other's cards was a balance decision. We already had that in the fact that cards do not stack, so the loss of visibility is not an issue that affects real time gameplay, as regens and shields do.

Now I do apologize for the triple post, but I've had a lot to address thus far. I fail to see how changing a system that was previously "glance and cast" to "coordinate with the other healer" doesn't affect real time gameplay. Previously, if I saw another Astrologian merely had a card Held, or a Royal Road with nothing Drawn, I could cast my card without issue, now I need to actively work with the healer to know what they have. That very much strikes me as an impact to real time gameplay.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

I am an AST and while I think we should be able to see another AST's cards, asking to be able to turn off royal road is a bit too much. It takes away from the rng aspect of the job. I always managed with what i got, that's what made it more interesting, making decisions on the go working with what you had. I was never aware of this macro thing until people started complaining about it in 4.0. On top of that, we now got tools to get rid of unwanted cards, isn't that enough? It should be.

[Tonjiar]

I don't really need to argue with you

And yet you chose to post again.

, given that the majority of the playerbase sides with me

You don't speak for the majority of the playerbase and to assume such a thing is just arrogant.

, but if you're going to hop straight into personal insults, and fail to counter with even a simple valid argument, I do feel the need to point that out. Thus far, every point I've made has been more feasible than yours

Every point eh? No generalized statement there. But sure... let's look at just one for example.

So, excuse me if I sound a bit irate at this point, but if people really think the strongest healer in the game should have no drawback to its unique system, then you're the reason AST is overbuffed to start.

Explain how this sentence makes sense? If someone were to believe that the strongest healer in the game having no drawback to its unique system, exactly how would that make them the reason that job is overbuffed? Seems like that would be a game designer choice rather than the end user.

, as your argument, and those like it, stem from one thing: "I want buffs, and I don't want anything to change."

I can say your approach is incorrect here. I want the ability to remove a buff. Something that wouldn't break the game, just allow a feature that is current in game to reapply back to a specific ability. This would not give the job more healing throughput. Also I do want change, I would like the ability to work with my other ASTs and not against them. Without voice communications, it's quite possible to do this within the limits of the game should the card buff be visible as before. This once again, does not improve healing but encourages people to work together to clear content.

Like I said you are bitter, your over use of the bold print only enforces your personal ideology you're trying push.