With all the negativity around war let's talk about the best part of 4.0!

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Possible, yes. But you lose a lot in doing so. It would require you to spend all that you've built in tank stance, and start from zero when you do it.

I'd actually argue you lose more by not dumping gauge before a swap. Why would you just throw that gauge in the trash instead using it on an ability? I just barely got caught up on ilvl to start running Omega on Monday so I haven't tried the ex's yet, but I've had zero issue dumping gauge before tank/stance swaps in v4.

If Warriors only lost half their gauge when they went into Defiance, then I might START to agree with you. Because Dark Knights and Paladins don't get a huge potential DPS loss when they change from tank stance to damage stance.

So you're OK with a cost when it doesn't come at an expense to your dps. Again confirming my opinion that the major problem people have with the changes is mainly because it's reduces their dps.

It's not fun at all starting a fight in Defiance, not being able to use Unchained right away, or even AT ALL because it means sacrificing Inner Release. Not to mention it's useless to use Infuriate because since you're planning on emptying your gauge before swapping, it means you'd have to start from 0 unless you save it.

I've not had this problem. See, I just use unchained in Defiance, and if I'm able to switch to Deliverance at some point I use Inner Release when it's up. I guess I'm just a bad tank that makes it work somehow. The only complaint I have about Infuriate is the trait is kind of useless since you're mainly only saving it for berserk windows. Great idea, but it doesn't really make it any more useful.

So Warriors who tank are basically screwed either way, forced stay in Defiance with no real incentive to ever go into Deliverance. This is what people are complaining about.

Or the other way around. Except there doesn't really seem to be any complaints about staying in Deliverance the whole time.. Hmm

If you're still having trouble understanding the issue at hand, try to imagine if Paladins and Dark Knights lost half their mana whenever they switched stances. It's pretty much exactly the same thing.

I'm pretty sure I understand the situation quite clearly. The difference is I still have a lot of fun playing warrior because I'm not attached to 3.X meta.

My main annoyance w/ it is in situations where I haven't planned to switch to Defiance but need to for an Equil cuz things went haywire, and because I switched at 30/50/etc I now have X5 gauge. Which, at my current level, is only possible to get rid of if I completely over-cap my gauge. Then when I switch back it becomes X3 gauge and even if I had IR I can't get rid of that without just over-capping. It's also annoying that it nerfs my damage potential, but only nerfs PLD's mitigation potential, but I'm more just frustrated that I've got this 5 extra gauge I can't do anything with. It's not necessarily the end of the world but it'd be better if it was changed to something less clunky.

I agree that if they fix anything with the cost to swap it should be to fix the odd quantities of gauge left over. That's absolutely goofy, and I can't, in any way, find justification for it.