Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[bounddreamer]

Okay, this is something I don't understand(possibly because I play on PS4, and haven't touched a PC version). But why do people, when needing to move in a fight you can run off the edge in, use auto run? Is it on automatically for PC? I know for PS4 you need to already be moving, then tap L1 to turn it on.

You can click it on by accident, I've done so myself many times though not usually catastrophically like that.

[Serilda]

Okay, this is something I don't understand(possibly because I play on PS4, and haven't touched a PC version). But why do people, when needing to move in a fight you can run off the edge in, use auto run? Is it on automatically for PC? I know for PS4 you need to already be moving, then tap L1 to turn it on.

It's not quite the same but pre-SB I once died on some EX Primal or other (probably Titan) on PS4 by accidentally pushing R3 during a dodge phase. Which was by default bound to auto lock-on and ended up making me run in an unexpected direction and had me killed in almost exactly the same way. Needless to say I swiftly removed the binding thereafter :/

[Heliantheae]

Got Castrum Ananta for leveling last night. To say it was a disaster would be selling it short. I was honestly tanking it for the first time. I healed it when going through MSQ and I learned nothing other than the second boss kills party members a lot. And it was smooth up to that point. But one of the DPS wouldn't grab a tower and I kept getting countered and couldn't figure out why. Finally the healer spoke up, tank him in the same element. Oh, I felt like an idiot, there's three circles and a colored buff on the boss and I couldn't put two and two together. That bridge before the final boss was fun. My bloodiness was filling so fast I cast Quistis like four times in a row. During the final boss the healers controller or something stopped and I died. Also I'm bad at timing TBN. He uses the big claw attack and then I shield. I have to work on that cause those 20 blood points are nice.

[missybee]

jesus, i forgot how ignorant this forum was.

Man, I missed so much good stuff over night.

So basically, with the little context that we were given, we were just supposed to assume you were the good guy? You yourself admitted that "words were exchanged," and yet didn't provide a screenshot of the same, so my assumption is that you weren't a bowl of sunshine either (and considering how much of a complete crusty starfish you have been here on the OF, I think that is a reasonable assumption).

Yeah, it is a mild inconvenience when tanks run off without protect, but you adjust. Just sprint after them, get the healing done for the first pull, and protect when you can. If you were unable to keep them alive, a simple, "I'm sorry - I wasn't quite ready," would possibly have served to de-escalate the situation.

We have to draw our conclusions from the context that YOU give. With the minimal information that you provided in your original post, the conclusion that some readers came to is that you ALSO did not conduct yourself respectably. Sure, that isn't fun to hear, but when a fair few people say it, it might be time for some introspection.

[Stormbad]

If the tank is a paladin, it's probably because the new parry/block changes, plus Total Eclipse is all-around circle with quite a short range, so they want to hit all mobs. Keeping everything clustered in front of the tank only hits about half of them.

Ahh that makes more sense why, but still, a dps AOE is going to be much more effective than tank AOE.

[KisaiTenshi]

Okay, this is something I don't understand(possibly because I play on PS4, and haven't touched a PC version). But why do people, when needing to move in a fight you can run off the edge in, use auto run? Is it on automatically for PC? I know for PS4 you need to already be moving, then tap L1 to turn it on.

On the PC, if you play with the mouse, holding both mouse buttons moves the player forward. Clicking the mouse wheel/third button activates auto-run, even if you're not moving. I find it's difficult to activate by accident and the more likely thing is that the player ran past where they thought they would when they were moving with the WASD keys. Auto-run is typically used by players after a wipe to get back to the boss room, while they do something else, and I've seen people accidentally early-pull by not stopping at the boss room door. This is why when you see the purple line, you always stop just before it then cross it normally.

I use the mouse for moving the camera, and one thing that does happen is that the camera "flips", causing you to move in the wrong direction, this has caused me to fall off ledges when I've tried to move the camera while moving, and instead changed the angle towards the edge instead of away. Normally you want to always have the camera positioned so the direction you move is straight ahead. However if you cast something towards an enemy that is facing towards the camera, typically the next time you try to move will instead flip the camera. So if you ever wonder why some people can dodge the "glare" attacks and then miss it, it's likely because the auto-attack flipped them.

In duty finder goodness:

So yesterday I spent all day on an Alt (with an automatic sprout) to see how fast it takes to level from the beginning to the point you can get to PotD, and that's roughly 8 hours, less if you skip the cut scenes. Basically it's a slog between level 1 and 15. Once you hit level 15, only then do you get told about the Hall of the Novice, and there was one thing I noticed, outright stated, during it that seems like nobody is following:



Now into the Duty finder, 20 minutes for Satasha. Tank (with a crown) takes off straight to the first boss. Says nothing at all until the end where he mentions the cracked cluster. Like guys, I know Satasha is boring, but if you see a sprout in group, chances are they likely have never played a dungeon instance and ignoring things like where the clue to the colored coral is not good (this party managed to just get it on the first try.)

So I'm thinking, it couldn't be this stupid every time will it?

The game completely lampshades this with two sets of cutscenes, the cutscene you get with Dolorous Bear about his party bragging about you beating him to Satasha, but then you see them outside Tam-Tara. Likewise you see Edda's party outside Satasha and Tam-Tara, and Alianne and Isildaure outside it.

The Tam-Tara Deepcroft, 20 minutes, this time the other DPS is also a sprout, this tank goes slower, one group at a time.

Now you get the cut scene with Edda being harassed by Liavinne about Edda not healing Avere fast enough, so he's dead.

Copperbell Mines, 20 minutes, now the tank and the dps are sprouts. Golly gee the next dungeon is going to be all sprouts at this rate.

Outside Copperbell mines you see Alianne and Isildaure, if you talk to them they tell you tell you that Dolorous Bear and his party were all killed.

By this point I already got to level 21. You can start PotD at level 17 after Completing Copperbell Mines.

So only one of these dungeons I'd consider a terrible run, and only by virtue of it being rushed by a mentor no less without saying anything. That's a far different experience from 2.0's launch.

It's almost as if the writers were trying to make a point about good teamwork, that everyone forgets. Paiyo and Liavinne both railed on Edda for letting Avere die. Sound familiar?

[Jijifli]

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Why is it showing my face and not Aki's?

Crap people who don't read it all will think I was the healer holding the group hostage and not the person explaining why they were wrong.

[missybee]

Why is it showing my face and not Aki's?

Because I am a dingaling and I quoted it from your post since they had deleted theirs. I didn't see the face thing - sorry!

I edited it to just be a generic quote.

[BlastHardcheese]

I've healed 2 Snowcloak's this evening, second one was a few miscommunication but otherwise ok, the first one though.

Second boss, dps were killing ads so I type up a brief strat mid fight but it's ignored, we slowly kill the boss anyway because he's a joke but ugh.

Fenrir: People not LoS'ing Lunar Cry, we wipe as I'm typing.

I ask if everyone speaks English through the auto translate, no response but they all stop running and look at me, so I tried something different and, presuming no keyboards, I managed to convey the brief tactics by having them jump once if they understood and twice if not.

It got a chuckle from the wife.

[Lustaria]

Last night me and my bff were doing roulettes as we do every night. We did the 50/60 one; I was NIN and she was PLD. The dice landed on Wanderer's Keep. Perfect, I needed to run it for my GC log.

And then it begins...

We rush through the first set of mobs.. but that's neither here nor there. Before we even get into a battle; the WHM healer casts Regen on everyone. And you know what that means. (We didn't actually see the healer die at all because they were so far behind for whatever reason.) And because of this, there is no healer where we are and then we wipe.


This repeats for about two times until the other DPS drops and is replaced by someone else. My first thought was, was this someone who jumped? No, because the healer was level 51. Despite being told by my Mentor friend that regen steals aggro due to the constant ticking; this healer continues to either use Regen before fights start, and only cures with Cure 3. Also I noticed they were casting cure on people who were at full health for some reason.


We wipe again because healer dies to stalking Tonberry somehow, (and because of this we wipe because no healer to heal while fighting trash.)
I say 'And this is why you don't regen.'

...And then the healer says 'It's the fault of those shilby knees!' (Don't ask me wtf that means. Nobody knows.)

We eventually do clear the Keep. Somehow. My BFF and I wager that the healer was using a bot of some sort because there was no modicum of intelligence or awareness in what they were doing.