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    Player
    Oscura's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Shion Sumeragi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Sam needs to be 2% above Drg with only slashing debuff and no other utility while being sorely behind non and Mnk. Sam also needs to have all it's combo buffs set to 10 seconds since 30 seconds is too long compared to other jobs.

    Higanbana also neds to have its duration dropped from 1 minute to 17 seconds.

    Hagakure should only ever consume half a Sen.

    Meditate should only give you 20 kenki.

    Midare should be matched to Mnks highest potency move before GL3 buffs are applied.

    Guren should be nerfed to 400 potency.

    Meikyo should be 3 minute cool down like PB.

    Sam's regular potency moves should be weaker than drgs AND the should have no way to buff their damage still.

    The moment the overlap a Sen, the Sam should damage itself with a move to commit suicide:seppuku

    Increase the kenki costs of all kenki abilities by 20.

    Any missed positional result in 75% damage reduction and a subtraction of kenki from your kenki bar. Make every move a positional that has the same stipulation!! Even the kenki abilities!

    Please make these changes happen SE. These changes have to happen to quell the masses and kill the class!!!!
    Sorry, but I had to post to just say this meltdown is totally sad.
    If you don't like people criticizing your class, then just stop reading the OF or posting here.
    No need to get all hyperbolic and make posts full of vitriol.

    I know we've disagreed in the past but I at least respected your opinion.
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kenrir Amnis
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    Sorry, but I had to post to just say this meltdown is totally sad.
    If you don't like people criticizing your class, then just stop reading the OF or posting here.
    No need to get all hyperbolic and make posts full of vitriol.

    I know we've disagreed in the past but I at least respected your opinion.
    Might be laced with vitriol, but also some up a lot of the arguments in this thread against Sam while going more extreme. I added a couple but.. meh. People will never be happy, at least not everyone. The criticism doesn't bother me that much, what does bother me more is when people do not really look at the class and not really doing Fair comparisons. People tend to overexagerate their own problems, it's human nature. Yea, some classes need help, i.e. drg/mch/smh and possibly blm. What I constantly see though sums up as "i wanna deal raw dmg like Sam but I don't wanna play it".

    Why not add a positional to every attack for Sam, turn it into mnk and make them loose potency and kenki? Then they loose something on 2 fronts since apparently Sam looses nothing else ever during the course of a fight in comparison to everyone else. (Which at It's base is not true, Nin looses even less than Sam and mnk can get back to where it was rather quickly even without PB.)
    At that point, Sam then becomes the most punished class for missing a positional, and maybe people will stop complaining.

    I don't care people think the class is easy or hard, or appears less punishing but people aren't looming at things equally when making comparisons to other classes and just throw things out there. At east thats what it seems like to me.

    Edit: your most recent longer post is a good post and pointed out some good things that I agree with. Remember I said most people don't appear to make sound arguments and through our past quotes I have respected your opinions. J read the OFs mainly for fun, but when I see inaccurate I formation outside of numbers it tends to get under my skin (like most people) and I feel compelled to post to At least provide my viewpoint on why said information appears to be incorrect.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 07-13-2017 at 01:23 AM.