Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Vidu]

Incorrect, not sure where i need to go easy as nothing in that was aggressive, i simply asked you to think about it, as there is a trick to it, just not saying it here, if you actually think about it, you may figure it out. it's a pretty easy solution to being with the mentioned crap groups you'd end up with.

Yeah, calm down there - you're throwing a pretty big fit over a minor inconvenince.
Is it annoying if a tank takes off immidiatly? Yes, it is.
But its also annoying to wait for little Miss Healer to take her drink and sort out her cross class spells at the start of a dungeon - my assumption as tank will always be: If someone was able to hit "commence" a few seconds ago, they're ready now. And if a healer doesnt cast protect right away, my guess is they dont want to do it at all.

Instead of getting all aggressive and hostile (from what you've shown here so far that seems to be your style though...), learn to adapt and realise that you're playing in a group where you arent more important than the rest of the people. Crossclass skills can be sorted out on the way - even in battle now! - and the same goes for having that drink. Making everyone wait at the start of a dungeon until you're finally ready (something that you actually confirmed by entering the dungeon) and being so rude and hostile about it wont earn you much sympathy - neither in game nor on the forums. But I kinda doubt you care...

[LunaFaye]

Yeah, calm down there - you're throwing a pretty big fit over a minor inconvenince.
Is it annoying if a tank takes off immidiatly? Yes, it is. But its also annoying to wait for little Miss Healer to take her drink and sort out her cross class spells at the start of a dungeon - my assumption as tank will always be: If someone was able to hit "commence" a few seconds ago, they're ready now. And if a healer doesnt cast protect right away, my guess is they dont want to do it at all.

Oh I hate when tanks do that, because they think that you might be under geared, new to the dungeon, or in general don't want to stress the healer out. I appreciate it guys, but a healer is not that special, or need to be wrapped into some cotton, we can handle ourselves.

If I wanted you to slow down, I am going to tell you, or ask for changes in general. I don't need you to decide for me, if you should be pulling very slowly because of your broken assumption or because you don't want to make me mad. Srsly, if I queue as healer, please give me the full drama right at the start, don't give me special treatment, it makes it feel very awkward.

And to that person that thought holding up the group for 10 minutes, because the tank didn't waited for him/her to cast protect. Trust me if you were in my group, you would have left after 2 minutes by yourself, and gladly taken the penalty, there's a lot of things groups can do, when dealing with special cases like you The kick button would only be the easiest/quickest way out of that, nobody needs to wait for that.

[Skyward]

I just got kicked from Darkhold for being a Roe.

[Rivxkobe]

I'm curious as to how long it takes a RDM and SAM to burn through that pull, because as BLM I've always been able to take it down relatively quickly.

I'm curious as to how you missed "SAM was low on TP" and the fact that RDM are trash at AoE compared to BLM, or most Jobs for that matter.

if all play their job correctly, it's nearly the same, there's maybe a difference of 10-20 seconds, but if most sam/rdm/blm don't know how to play their job, this pull can take a massive long time.

10-20 seconds is a HUGE difference lol. Also, implying that the posters brothers don't know how to AoE is a b*tch move.

Fortunately you can have a total control of this first pull you hate so much as both DPS are your bros. Since DPS don't benefit from AoEing packs of less than 5 targets, you could ask your bros to ignore the wall until the first mobs are dead. The Tank alone will not be able to destroy the wall by the time both tigers are dead anyway.

It should save you a headache :/

This makes no sense. If you are AoEing you are bound to hit the wall, especially since most AoE is a circle. Also there are no Tigers, they are Coeurl, and if the Tank is pulling all the mobs to the wall the wall is going to take damage and drop mosslings as it does.

You people reply with "answers" but add little to the discussion.

[Stormbad]

Think a bit harder on it, you'll figure it out.

Communication is a two-way process. The other person was asking a very simple question which you could've just answered. When you tell someone to figure it (because in your mind it's such a simple answer), it comes across as passive aggressive with a lot of implications.

After leveling my DRG to 70 and now getting my SAM up to 63, I have slowly come to realize that some tanks are not aware of the conal nature of some AOEs. There is nothing more frustating to have the tank encircled evenly with a pack of mobs and me and any other conal-aoe job only being able to hit half of them at a time. I haven't noticed this behavior a lot before but now I see it almost every DF dungeon (possibly because now you can parry and block from flank and rear?!?!?). If you're a tank and did not realize our pain, please please group them up tighter, like a virgin.

I just got kicked from Darkhold for being a Roe.

As a fellow RoeBro, I am appalled! Racists!

[qqmoarploxify]

Vote kicked someone from floor 95 in potd. He would afk at the cairn as soon as we got to the next floor and not do anything. So after the kick went through, his buddy decided to pull eveything on the next floor to try and wipe us, he failed miserably and it was hilarious. Somehow I'm the bad guy for voting to kick the afk people though.

[KalinOrthos]

After leveling my DRG to 70 and now getting my SAM up to 63, I have slowly come to realize that some tanks are not aware of the conal nature of some AOEs. There is nothing more frustating to have the tank encircled evenly with a pack of mobs and me and any other conal-aoe job only being able to hit half of them at a time.

Unfortunately, for a good many packs, especially large, dense ones, this isn't as doable. Think of the dog pack in Ala Mhigo. The adds, naturally want to spread out a bit. This is what will cause tanks to kind of jitter and move the mobs around, to corral them tight, but there will still be some drift apart, and that's something that no tank can help. Now, for regular 3- to 5- add packs, yes, it's better not only for the tank but the DPS to group them in front of the tank (tanks lose parry when attacked from flanks and behind, I think), but keep in mind that larger pulls will tend to drift apart naturally.

[Stormbad]

Unfortunately, for a good many packs, especially large, dense ones, this isn't as doable. Think of the dog pack in Ala Mhigo. The adds, naturally want to spread out a bit. This is what will cause tanks to kind of jitter and move the mobs around, to corral them tight, but there will still be some drift apart, and that's something that no tank can help. Now, for regular 3- to 5- add packs, yes, it's better not only for the tank but the DPS to group them in front of the tank (tanks lose parry when attacked from flanks and behind, I think), but keep in mind that larger pulls will tend to drift apart naturally.

Yeah I totally understand the mobs which don't clip inside each other but this is for all mobs. Also, blocks and parries are no longer limited to attacks from the front so my guess is that tanks just don't give a f anymore lol.

[Avatre]

Yeah I totally understand the mobs which don't clip inside each other but this is for all mobs. Also, blocks and parries are no longer limited to attacks from the front so my guess is that tanks just don't give a f anymore lol.

Or they were never taught to make sure the backs of the mobs(as much as possible) are faced towards the party. That, and a lot of people running past the tank(healers/ranged DPS quite a bit last night did this to me on my PLD) and attack/heal from there.

[missybee]

Communication is a two-way process. The other person was asking a very simple question which you could've just answered.

Honestly, the only other thing I can think of is faking a d/c? That is still more or less forcing the party to kick you though.

It was legitimately curious initially!

I dunno. Maybe the answer is super obvious. I'm not always the sharpest cookie in the tool shed.