A detailed Reaction to Warrior in SB

[Dizzy_Derp]

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It was night and day and its always going to be on warrior because of how the class is designed. All your damage comes from your berserk windows and maintaining your buffs. Its funny actually because the problem with low damage wars in 3.x was that they were over thinking it trying to figure out when you use block for "More damage" when in reality it was killing them. They were dropping eye all the time. The guys parsing low were actually working twice as hard as people on the upper end cause all we were doing was spamming eye with blocks Just for aggro on swaps or pull. Just like 3.x all your damage comes from optimal zerk windows and your opener. For example if I miss a single zero in lakshmi ex specifically the one in add phase i lose almost 500 dps just from that. There will always be a gap because some will be better at their zerk windows than others. Oh and keeping upheaval on cd. That shits pretty important also.

[Tegernako]

I was fighting agodo or whatever hunt boss the other day, and I was so upset when it's stupid tail attack knockback and stun bypassed inner release and stuffed up my combo.

And guess what? Shake it off didn't cleanse the stun. LOL ... so dumb : (

Does not cleanse paralyze from V4 either.

[P4X0R10N]

Does not cleanse paralyze from V4 either.

Knockback from the snake boss in deltas cape 1 bypasses inner release as well. =*(

[Umbeliel]

Six fell cleaves and it's not anywhere near as exciting as being able to fit in that fracture at the end of a berserk rotation in HW.

This is something I actually didn't think of, and it's true, and it's hilarious and sad.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention lmao

[Casomme]

If the only thing they changed with War is "No Beast gauge cost to switch Stance" and "Inner Release and Unchained no longer share a cooldown timer" I will start playing it again. Hell I will even live with shake it off.

[vigioX-Sun]

Agreed with OP, the war class it become so bad to play, I main war since 1.0 an i had to drop the axe in 4.0 because of how bad the gameplay is, the class need some changes an im hoping they mention something on the live letter about this situation, there is a reason why they giving so much bonus to tanks on DR, lot of players just dont like the theme of sword an shield an giant sword, all my wars friends drop the class at lv 70 including myself to a DPS, i will love to pick up my axe again but the job is terrible to play i been kick from dungeons just for being a war, we back to 2.0 almost..

[YitharV2]

I don't really think eye-path-path is any more 'difficult' a rotation than eye-block or eye-eye was. The difficulty of the class is (and always was) about maximizing your burst windows, something which is much harder now because it requires making sure you're hitting 100 beast without wasting any precisely as berserk comes off CD, plus handling the bizarre timing of infuriate now.

It's argued here that Berserk should give 100 gauge so our lives aren't dictated by the gauge.

[testname]

Guys you forgot, that it's not about stance dance!
How the job work overall with utility and healing mitigation

[Domiinick]

I agree with most of it, but I do believe people are still focused too much on the PLD changes in comparison to there's. Yeah, they're doing too much damage right now, but I feel they should have the utility.. while the WAR has the breakneck damage and ability to keep their own. Hopefully the WARs will get better stuff in the 4.05 patch.

[Shinkyo]

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For PLD, it's not just the utility that makes their DPS ridiculous. They literally have not weakness and no penalty from any situation/mechanics.
Need to be off the boss to dodge an aoe? DRK/WAR can only do tomahawk/unmend to ranged attacks whereas PLD can still nuke with Holy.
AOE damage? WAR/DRK still need to blow some single target moves to maintain their buff/mp where as PLD can spam aoe all day.
They have every tools to deal with every situation at no penalty other than possible using a gcd to heal/stance swap.

My PLD is almost 70 but I know I will pretty much refuse to play it because it feels like playing on easy mode.