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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by OJtheLIONKing View Post
    People have been explaining why pretty much since the game launched. Please, read one of those threads and catch yourself up.

    The long and the short of it is that this is a standard feature in MMOs though. Regardless of the many other valid reasons, this game has to compete in a market where jump is standard, and last I checked they're not clamoring to have jump removed in Rift or WoW.

    The people who have this ridiculous hatred of jump just need to get over it and move on. It's coming, whether you like it or not, because more people want it. That's how both democracies and capitalism work.
    So a game has to have jump not because it is needed for the gameplay but because everyone else is doing it? That is a pretty stupid reason. What I want to know is with this jump are we getting areas with platform elements or we are just getting a tacked on jump to copy everyone else?
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    People who think wow invented everything, really need to stop, wow copied good ideas from other mmos. Jumping for instance, correct me if I'm wrong, came from Everquest being one of the first 3d mmorpgs, that you could move in x,y,z axis-es. If you want to blame anyone blame Everquest.

    There are 3 major mmo generations, each generation bringing new things to the genre.

    Being in the in the 3rd generation of mmos, we need to keep with the times of the genre, we can't be a competitive mmo when we are still sticking with the 2nd generation of movement.

    No matter how much you old school players want to keep to the old times, you are living in the past, I am not saying its a bad thing, but don't try and hold back what could be a genre changer. If we let ffxiv get its foot in the door by being in the game generation as its direct competitors, and the devs for ffxiv add things that no other mmo has, that change the genre and improve it. We could be in for a treat.
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  3. #113
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    Perhaps that particular animation was for jumping on the moon..or with a (-) gravity spell.

    Still, Its a tech demo so any feedback is largely useless at this point.

    I'm largely opposed to jumping (except with DRG). Without any in-game relevance, it's just a me-too gimmick to make FF look like the other MMO games out there.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 11-04-2011 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Perhaps that particular animation was for jumping on the moon..or with a (-) gravity spell.

    Still, Its a tech demo so any feedback is largely useless at this point.

    I'm largely opposed to jumping (except with DRG). Without any in-game relevance, it's just a me-too gimmick to make FF look like the other MMO games out there.
    Plus it seems it's not going to have a purpose other than being able to Jump as I figured it would. (Just an animation), since there's still a good possibility they'll have barriers in place, since when he even first mentioned it he mentioned 'emote', which are largely just animations and no real implementation outside of a few quests.

    The emote is probably just an afterthought since Dragoon needs it as an ability as well.
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  5. #115
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    the animation of the character moving, and jumping looks fantastic, tho the height is a bit much. This really does seem to make the game look more fluid, not feel so clunk. After people give it a try I'm sure they will come to love it, people are just afraid of change for some reason.
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    I don't mind jump being in the game, but it definitely need to be reworked. I don't want to see a Lalafell jumping that high. An NBA player can't even jump that high based on height/jump ratio. I'm positive that was just concept to show that they have something coded and are planning to go with it, but yeah, let's make it a bit more realistic. Lalafell should be able to maybe jump 2 foot high. :P
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    I'm going to laugh if it's just an animation and doesn't allow you to hurdle anything.
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    While I think it looks stupid (Being Alpha and all), so long as it doesn't follow in the footsteps of Elder Scrolls and make me jump continuously to level up my Acrobatics skill, I think I can live with it.

    A request? Please prevent people from using jump in cities.
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    Yes, for the love of the twelve, please prevent jumping in cities!!!

    The last thing we need is people hopping all over the place like Rift. They have that, and it's a BIG reason that I don't play Rift anymore. It's unnecessary. It doesn't make you move faster.

    It's bad enough with the emote spammers.

    In fact, I'd like the option to block seeing any jumping animations on my screen.
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    Last edited by Zoltan; 11-04-2011 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aistaraina View Post
    A request? Please prevent people from using jump in cities.
    That would be awfully nice, I agree.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 11-04-2011 at 04:47 AM.
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