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  1. #51
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    Ronyx's Avatar
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 72
    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
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  2. #52
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    Sayora's Avatar
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    Kani Kani
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
    I don't think you really know how good Strength is, especially when you have enough HP to survive content. If they want tanks to not use Strength accessories they need to completely bar them from it.
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  3. #53
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    Gravton's Avatar
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
    I don't understand why we have more offensive abilities than defensive ones. I don't understand why I have like 16 abilities that scale off str and only one that scales off vit. I don't understand what I'm suppose to do while off tanking, other than wait for my turn to "do what a tank does". Just to name a few.
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  4. #54
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    Cadmar Locke
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Please.
    Please.
    Just please, please stop with this false narrative that tanks have to pick "tanking" or "dps". Why is so hard for people to understand that we can do both? "Tanking" is only so effective up to the point where you can not optimize any more. At that point what is the harm of maximizing your dps. Not to sound cliche, but isn't the best defense the death of the target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    You're a warrior of light and can't even defeat Twintania with a 20% echo buff? Thanks for the offer but I'll find someone else to save the world.

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    Dement's Avatar
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    Dement Drachte
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    Coeurl
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    Warrior Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    you are just typing, not showing you actually testing this. Proof would be visual evidence, not me taking your word for it. My testing was watching my g/f in dungeons and in omega out lasting most groups when it come to wipes (as in last to die) her killing shinryu with an auto attack, when it was just me her and a healer up when he was @ 1%. Her having to safe the butts of pld tanks in omega.

    test stuff in content where it matter not on a dummy.

    also pics or it didn't happen. << rule of thumb you should follow.
    You demand photographic proof that tenacity is terrible and then provide your evidence of tenacity not being terrible as anecdotal evidence from watching your g/f do dungeons and omega. There are enough tests out there now that I would say the burden of proof is shifted onto those who believe the stat has merit.

    You say to test stuff in content where it matters and not test it on a dummy yet you don't seem to realize that in order to accurately test the effects of a stat you have to control for variables. Testing stats in actual combat cannot control for variables like testing on a dummy can. The dummy doesn't change, the dummy isn't PUG healers, the dummy isn't moving and forcing mechanics. Your knowledge of performing tests may not be as fool proof as you believe it to be if you can't see this. There is a reason that stats have been tested on dummies since the inception of the game.
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