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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
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    Okay, so... I have 21321535 Tests that say Ten is not worth it and 1 Test that sais its worth it.(yours) (which is subjective) (cause you didnt actually test)(but you just say it is).

    Welp, case closed.

    Also, you arguement that "tank should be tanking dmg and not dps" shows that you just dont have any actual arguements left. I showed you proof that Ten is not worth it, you just keep on spinning saying "lalala, i dont hear you, i wont aknowledge your test, your tests dont count, lalalal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    .... PROOF IS RIGHT THERE. and still not proof enough? ...i am slowly starting to question your ability to comprehend things.



    Wasnt it the same with Parry? It was good for casual content due to the amount of adds / enemies you had where a constant trigger or Parry was welcome. It was however not so good in boss encounters, where an unsteady -x % dmg reduction simply wasnt worth it.
    i see text, no evidence. No video or pictures of the test, no time spent on using bigger or smaller sample sizes. No damage intake on the tank.


    keep trying to insult me though.... really shows your maturity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    i see text, no evidence. No video or pictures of the test, no time spent on using bigger or smaller sample sizes. No damage intake on the tank.


    keep trying to insult me though.... really shows your maturity.
    Go back and read again what i wrote instead of just talking nonsense.
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    Last edited by Rasylia; 07-10-2017 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    That looks grim to me, is it worth it over say det or crit?
    In my eyes as a WAR? No, it really isn't. I'd rather have the crit and det to make my path/inner beast heal for more, and a crit equilibrium is never something I will turn down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Okay, so... I have 21321535 Tests that say Ten is not worth it and 1 Test that sais its worth it.(yours) (which is subjective) (cause you didnt actually test)(but you just say it is).

    Welp, case closed.
    you are just typing, not showing you actually testing this. Proof would be visual evidence, not me taking your word for it. My testing was watching my g/f in dungeons and in omega out lasting most groups when it come to wipes (as in last to die) her killing shinryu with an auto attack, when it was just me her and a healer up when he was @ 1%. Her having to safe the butts of pld tanks in omega.

    test stuff in content where it matter not on a dummy.

    also pics or it didn't happen. << rule of thumb you should follow.
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    Why are people obsessed so much in doing over dps with tanks? Just play tank or dps, they both have their speciality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Go back and read again what i wrote instead of just talking nonsense.

    Edit: I just won't bother with you anymore. Welcome to my blocklist. At least this way i can stop reading about your girlfriends adventures.
    Which makes me wonder - you havent even mentioned what she thinks of Ten yet. You should ask her. And then tell us.
    i did. i still see no pictures or videos.

    she likes ten. she had it on her anima weapon and melds with it, she feels it saved her butt numerous times.

    shes normally the last person alive in raid wipes, had to save 2 pld from dying to omega bosses, on more then one occasion during fights.


    but ya real mature, block a person asking for pictures or videos. :/ And making suggestions on better testing...
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    Last edited by BigRed5392; 07-10-2017 at 11:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Why are people obsessed so much in doing over dps with tanks? Just play tank or dps, they both have their speciality.
    Personally, my DPS is not what I'm worried about, however my self-healing as a WAR is tied to my attack power, and that is part of what keeps me alive. That is what I'm worried about.
    With vit acc:

    with the old 270 str acc:

    Thats gonna add up over the course of the fight, and while I'm not a fan of using the old accessories, and only really use them for solo stuff, I can see why people are inclined to use them.
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    Last edited by Syfurion; 07-10-2017 at 11:43 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    That looks grim to me, is it worth it over say det or crit?
    Assuming numbers I've been told are accurate, it's 1% per 180 and 160 respectively, with the latter number getting lower the more of it you have. So 2.89% and 3.25+%.
    Tenacity is the lowest DPS stat, this is true, but outside of situations where you want to start cutting away anything you can for even the most minor of DPS boosts the difference between it and the other stats is utterly insignificant. The perk of the stat is that it gives you the most breathing room to learn a fight or cope with random people without drastically dropping your damage output nor relying on RNG as Parry did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Why are people obsessed so much in doing over dps with tanks? Just play tank or dps, they both have their speciality.
    Well, i wouldn't call it obsessed, at least not in my case. It's just that compared to other stats, the bonus Tenacity gives is just... not really worth it. Regarding the Str accessories - yes, those tanks need to stop
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