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    Rhaja's Avatar
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    Rhaja Foxtail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Why are people obsessed so much in doing over dps with tanks? Just play tank or dps, they both have their speciality.
    The people who get into the level of damage a tank can do are the ones who have (generally) already gotten the basics of tanking down: Enmity and Mitigation. After that the next way to increase your play is to see how far you can push your damage while still maintaining threat and mitigation. This is even furthered when you play with the same group as your reliance on tank stance becomes less. The issue is when players who do not have those basics mastered try to hit the next level, but that's a problem from a player standpoint not knowing their own skill, less than a design of the game.
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Why are people obsessed so much in doing over dps with tanks? Just play tank or dps, they both have their speciality.
    Because tanks have nothing else to improve. Stacking all that vit and having stupid hp doesn't actually help since they had enough to not die before that, it does not end the fight faster, nor does it actually help healers since they will pre-cast for a buster anyways. This leaves tanks without a means to feel like their gear helping or making them stronger, and their toolsets don't help much with that either. Increasing DPS is the only thing tanks have in this game to feel like their class is improving. Design issues.
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    Last edited by MrSmiley; 07-11-2017 at 02:15 AM.

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    Rasylia S'ial
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    *sighs at someone in the thread, but doesn't quote because it's apparently bullying*

    Anyways, i just melded Str on my Accessories, only V for the 310 ones, but VI for the 320 ones
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    I agree OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    Because tanks have nothing else to improve. Stacking all that vit and having stupid hp doesn't actually help since they had enough to not die before that. This leaves tanks without a means to feel like their gear helping or making them stronger, and their toolsets don't help much with that either. Increasing DPS is the only thing tanks have in this game to feel like their class is improving. Design issues.
    Yeah if you check my post history you can see I've been arguing that there are issues with the way tanks are designed in FFXIV, and because I've played TERA, I know it can be better than it is now.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 07-11-2017 at 02:14 AM.

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    Karse Farrence
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    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
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    Kani Kani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
    I don't think you really know how good Strength is, especially when you have enough HP to survive content. If they want tanks to not use Strength accessories they need to completely bar them from it.
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    What part of they want tanks to to tank people dont understand? o.O; They made it that way because thats how they want tanks to be less dmg more tanking. Maybe a bit upgrade on Tenacity it's what they need. We dont need to bring str accesories back or anything.
    I don't understand why we have more offensive abilities than defensive ones. I don't understand why I have like 16 abilities that scale off str and only one that scales off vit. I don't understand what I'm suppose to do while off tanking, other than wait for my turn to "do what a tank does". Just to name a few.
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    Cadmar Locke
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Please.
    Please.
    Just please, please stop with this false narrative that tanks have to pick "tanking" or "dps". Why is so hard for people to understand that we can do both? "Tanking" is only so effective up to the point where you can not optimize any more. At that point what is the harm of maximizing your dps. Not to sound cliche, but isn't the best defense the death of the target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    You're a warrior of light and can't even defeat Twintania with a 20% echo buff? Thanks for the offer but I'll find someone else to save the world.

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