Please Restrict tank classes from wearing strength jewelry.

[Zojha]

What's more important to you? Your numbers or your queue time?

Personally, I'm asking the question: Why not both?

You could remove tanks and healers from the game entirely without fundamental gameplay changes if you wanted, because tanks and healers are conceptually selfish roles that only exist for their own sake. And if you don't want to go that far, you can simply open more DPS slots if there is a DPS surplus - very easily in fact, as you only need to increase mob HP. It's not like with off-tanks where you actually need to create extra soak, swap or add mechanics. There is no need for there to be a tradeoff in the first place. That tradeoff exists for arbitrary political reasons, not because anything necessitates it.

And because of that, one shouldn't accept it. That would be mindless.

[Gravton]

Fun fact, the tank swap mechanic was introduced in 2.x because war was seen as inferior and groups were solo tanking content. That's why we still have that stupid mechanic.

[Hruodig]

Bard is fun and rewarding. There's lots of minmaxing to be done that you feel rewarded for. Samurai too. RDM a bit simple but fun none the less. Even the materias being offered for leveling roulettes are feeling ehhh to me. Once I get my 200 61+ clears for my armored edge panther I might drop DRK.

Bard does look pretty fun! I'm planning on getting that to 70 as my ranged dps. I just got ninja to 70 too and I'm having a lot of fun with it, will probably do sam next.

[AxlStream]

Fun fact, the tank swap mechanic was introduced in 2.x because war was seen as inferior and groups were solo tanking content. That's why we still have that stupid mechanic.

More like people were bringing double paladin... The tank swap were a thing because of debuffs stoping you from continuing to tank.

[Atmora]

I'm really sad that they removed parry.

Means I can't call full vit tanks "parry princesses".

(And I say this as someone who can't be assed using str accessories this expansion)

Tenacity Tycoons

[Atmora]

We will see. Right now with the unwanted WAR at least holmganging a mechanic every 3 min or 2x every 3 min with 2x WAR is not a thing anymore in every group.

We'll see. I still think that in Alexander savage STR tanks (with no VIT acc) wouldn't have been very succesfull, even if they had a +15% damage buff when doing that.

Why should it be different now?

I mean, proof me wrong and do a no-echo ilvl 245 clear in slaying gear in A9s and tell me if it's easier or more effective than going full VIT.

Tanks went full slaying in A3S and A4S, which are way way harder than A9S pre nerf. Like are you purposely stupid?

[Dizzy_Derp]

So this tank goes in pulls 1 group of 3 monsters, takes 3 hits and died before the heal can be off. I'm on my dps watching this tank wearing all strength jewelry and I'm like are you serious why would you wear dps jewelry as a tank?

You are ignorant af. You have no idea why a tank would wear them. So don't comment on the issue.

[AziraSyuren]

if tanks are still using 270 STR accessories...they don't know how to tank effectively. Sorry.

This is what happens when someone takes a reddit thread about STR too seriously.

Have fun getting one shot in tank buster raids.

I'll do what it takes to win, and when winning is no longer an issue, I'll do what it takes to maximize my damage output.

That doesn't make me a bad tank.

[Gravton]

More like people were bringing double paladin... The tank swap were a thing because of debuffs stoping you from continuing to tank.

The debuff is the tank swap mechanic....or am I missing something. People brought double paladin until they realized they could safely tank with one.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

if tanks are still using 270 STR accessories...they don't know how to tank effectively. Sorry.

This is what happens when someone takes a reddit thread about STR too seriously.

Have fun getting one shot in tank buster raids.

No current content can one shot a Slaying tank who mitigates properly. Susano, Lakshmi, Omega bosses-- nothing. Don't presume to know a role you clearly do not play. Should this change when Savage releases, tanks who raid will adjust. If it's still possible without impacting healer DPS too negatively, the Slaying meta will live on. The problem isn't STR tanks but people who aren't good with cooldown management or undergeared trying to follow instead of adapting to their skill set and improving gradually.