Other healers are really getting on my nerves. (Discussion)

[VanilleFang]

Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.

[Skivvy]

Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.

Yeahhh, as a WHM, I pretty much bought back all of my skills that we lost in the first place - but excluding cleric's.

But to answer OP, the only time I feel that other healers are shirking their job is in PvP. Quite often I feel as if I'm one of the few that is healing the entire alliance - and I'm almost always top, or near top on amounts cured (on the final scorecard). PvP is a bit trickier though as a healer as groups tend to spread out, and then run around like ants - so it isn't always the easiest.

[Taika]

Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.

I just started leveling WHM (almost 62 now) today and I have Cleric. I swapped Eye for an Eye out for that. I also have Swiftcast, Largesse, Lucid and Esuna (casting Protect at beginning of dungeon, then swapping it for Esuna). I pair Cleric with PoM for Stone / Holy spam. I don't know what would be more useful to have?

[Nixxe]

I just started leveling WHM (almost 62 now) today and I have Cleric. I swapped Eye for an Eye out for that. I also have Swiftcast, Largesse, Lucid and Esuna (casting Protect at beginning of dungeon, then swapping it for Esuna). I pair Cleric with PoM for Stone / Holy spam. I don't know what would be more useful to have?

Cleric Stance is less than a 1% increase in damage overall, even with optimal usage. Eye for an Eye, by reducing the number of heals you have to cast and therefore increasing the amount of time you can spend DPSing, may actually be a bigger DPS gain than Cleric Stance while also aiding your primary function.

[Taika]

Cleric Stance is less than a 1% increase in damage overall, even with optimal usage. Eye for an Eye, by reducing the number of heals you have to cast and therefore increasing the amount of time you can spend DPSing, may actually be a bigger DPS gain than Cleric Stance while also aiding your primary function.

Yeah I understand that in theory, but so far I haven't really had to heal at all apart from regen because of Holy stun, Asylum and Assize, so I swapped it to Cleric Stance. (On AST which was my first 70 I had Eye instead of CS.) Let's see if this changes when I gain more levels and experience. Also, I've been the top DPS on trash pulls and was only 150 dps away from the top DPS on the first boss of the Sirenson Sea run I did today... My experience is very limited, but so far seems WHM might be a bit OP in dungeons.

[Lukha]

Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.

Me as a matter of principle unless I really need something else for that dungeon, because SE will pry Cleric Stance (and DPSing in general) out of my cold, dead claws.

But, like, I will swap it out for Esuna before a boss where I know I'll need Esuna. I'm pissed, not bad.

[VanilleFang]

Me as a matter of principle unless I really need something else for that dungeon, because SE will pry Cleric Stance (and DPSing in general) out of my cold, dead claws.

But, like, I will swap it out for Esuna before a boss where I know I'll need Esuna. I'm pissed, not bad.

But it's so bad... So so bad. It's like a <1% increase to your overall DPS in a full dungeon run. Unless you ONLY DPS when CS is up. Then it's a flat 5% increase. Wooh.

[BloodRubyXII]

Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.

A space that I don't really have much else to put in. I don't need Esuna for Ex Primals, and I think I only need it for O3 to dispel Doom. Eye for Eye to me isn't worth the slot as a non-Scholar. Rarely do I get full uptime usage of a Clerics, but it's better than nothing or a spell that I'll never use. Technically I have two free spaces without Clerics, but I don't need to drop protect because there's so little I have to replace it. Largesse, Swiftcast and Lucid Dreaming are more or less the only three mandatory staples I have.

Rescue is a minor option I've seen used for pulling people in after they've baited a thunder cloud, but that's really it. Great PvP spell, horrid minimal use in PvE.