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  1. #61
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    They shouldn't have made this mess since 2.1 and should have asked fans about what they wanted in housing system\. No matter how many wards they make, whether it'd be 500-1000 wards at this point, there will always be ppl finding out ways to buy whole plots in 1 ward. Either they make instance based ward for particular friends and groups to share the ward/land, or they just make one plot based as instance.

    2.1 was disastrous and 2.3 was disastrous for adding personal and FC housing together, and then 2.55 with subplot with no additional wads was disastrous. 3.3 was disastrous and apartments didn't help.

    So I want to know is this: how will people want to move out of small house/apartment due to limitations? How can they move to medium or large? Why can't everyone have their houses equally or at least have their preference of sizes/furnishings?

    Adding lot of wards shouldn't really be that bad. So what is going on with these developers? Hope they'll answer this by next Saturday

    From what I recall the issue with a lot of this is that the coding of the game isn't that stellar to begin with. Some of my tech friends have mentioned that most of 1.0's assets are still running in the background due to the hodge podge nature of ARR's reconstruction and it doesn't help that apparently the game has server issues on top of that. This system IS doable however. LoTRO has a nearly identifcal housing system, though with hooks instead of free placement, and hundreds of wards per housing area. They also have specific houses in each ward for FC's to use that player characters cannot purchase - though I'd argue the ratio would need tweaking if FF14 ever adopted the system. Yes it's an older game and yes it has less to load, but the point is that it /can/ be done.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinibou View Post
    The worse housing in the whole MMO history... welcome in FFXIV
    You never played Ultima Online I assume...lol...
    Every square inch of the open world that you can build a house on was taken...on ALL servers. That included islands in the middle of the ocean.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    You never played Ultima Online I assume...lol...
    Every square inch of the open world that you can build a house on was taken...on ALL servers. That included islands in the middle of the ocean.
    Which makes our current problem really sad, because it's been 20 years since Ultima Online and FFXIV is one of the MMOs that has to learn the hard way that housing must always, ALWAYS be instanced, because you will never have enough space for all players otherwise.

    Japanese game and all that, yeah, but still.
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  4. #64
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    At this point, I think instanced plots would be the best solution give Square isn't addressing multi-plot owners like this. The question of housing woes get dodged too often. I'm still waiting to see if the community team or which one of them are gonna eat this question. Or rather, see how long it'll take until the topic is locked.

    As much as I'd love neighbors, not if the plots are going to be owned by alts that never get used because of greedy hoarders/house flippers.
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  5. #65
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    I am not in favor of instanced plots. I think people who want a house in this thread either don't have the time to play, which can be legitimate (work, school, etc.) or do have the time but aren't putting in the work to find a house.

    First of all, the abandonment timer just works for those who are diligent enough to check aetherytes at the right time. That right time has been stated multiple times by many people, so no point in mentioning it now. I have found abandoned large plots on Gilgamesh (10/12/2016) and Leviathan (7/13/2017), both of which I got. I am no longer on Gilgamesh, but it was the second biggest server before congestion reduction happened, at which point I left for Leviathan. No idea whether that is still the case.

    Second, housing feels more realistic in FFXIV. Neighborhoods have some people instead of one house and only NPCs. It's great to meet people to socialize.

    Third, the alt problem shouldn't be a problem. They had gil to do it when the server was dead. So, no reason why he can't have them, because it's honestly not his fault there was an influx of people to Mateus. However, I know it should be one account, one personal house, and blah blah blah. But it's not happening until SE decides it's for the best. And so far, it hasn't happened.

    Fourth, there are responsible people who own multiple FC houses, and use them. Why should the FC I'm in be punished because one person decided to buy up 28 houses on a different server?
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku13 View Post
    I am not in favor of instanced plots. I think people who want a house in this thread either don't have the time to play, which can be legitimate (work, school, etc.) or do have the time but aren't putting in the work to find a house.
    I have a house. This is false. Most people who want houses have the gil. There are no plots available. You can't just say "well they can buy off a reseller" because 1.) it's against the TOS so we shouldn't be supporting that and 2.) even then, there might be nobody selling.

    The neighborhoods are dead there's no reason to keep them around because they look nice.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    I can't support what Elamys said enough.. my FC is sitting on way more than the price of a large house for the fc and we simply can't use it because there isn't even small plots open on the server...
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I have a house. This is false. Most people who want houses have the gil. There are no plots available. You can't just say "well they can buy off a reseller" because 1.) it's against the TOS so we shouldn't be supporting that and 2.) even then, there might be nobody selling.

    The neighborhoods are dead there's no reason to keep them around because they look nice.
    This, I have enough for a small right now and am slowly working my way towards perhaps affording a medium at the rate I'm going. I WANT a house and I play every day due to my chronic conditions making it impossible to currently work. However I'm also on Balmung which almost /never/ has open houses and if they are they're far beyond the base price, to the point that it isn't uncommon to hear of a small house in the Mists selling for over 20 million depending upon where it's located. Sometimes even more. What's more is that in the ward my FC is a part of I NEVER see half of my neighbors, nor do their houses EVER change. We had a large house above us that was barely furnished and left to rot for TWO YEARS and only recently was bought out because someone managed to track down the owner who was holding onto it on his alt - never even getting to 60. (I watched his profile religiously, he'd ONLY log in to keep the house and never did anything else with that character.)

    That's a broken system. It's not laziness that's making it this way either which is highly conceited to even suggest.
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  9. #69
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    Well, since a Liveletter has passed and there's been messages from the community team, I think it's safe to say that they probably don't give a damn about the housing. Or rather that it's a low priority on the totem pole. Like... the lowest.

    Housing TOS be damned at this point.
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    Sadly this is all cause of Square Enix. (x.x) A lot of people including me broke off from an fc and started our own and earned the gil to buy a house. Sadly it is the same case of plots being sold out. I know that stuff like class balancing and so on takes priority cause it screws up stuff in the game or makes a class not enjoyable. However, this system should have never been put in like this in the first place. Now we can all argue over the people buying more then 1 or 2 houses. Fact of the matter is the system is flawed and no way can support the amount of people in the game. It is not just people that are transferring cause of the incentive. Its players that just came or returned. Or like in my case split off and started their own fc and so on.
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    Evil Alice

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