Please Restrict tank classes from wearing strength jewelry.

[YitharV2]

I generally don't approve of SE choices. But explain why its bad?

It's bad because it isn't the most organic way to solve aggro issues. The most organic way is to have tank AP scale with DPS AP. The way you described, SE has to constantly change aggro modifiers to keep up with DPS patch after patch. That being said, if SE wants to do that, more power to them.

[Moonlite]

It's bad because it isn't the most organic way to solve aggro issues. The most organic way is to have tank AP scale with DPS AP. The way you described, SE has to constantly change aggro modifiers to keep up with DPS patch after patch. That being said, if SE wants to do that, more power to them.

Before they didn't seem to have a plan and had agro scale to dps. More dps was more agro. But if going forward they plan to adjust each gear cycle and this is part of a road map it would be way easier to control. A naked tank could still hold hate. Other mechanics would get them. But hate wouldn't have to be discussed about dpsing out gearing some tanks.

A better dev team would discuss the road map for tanking. Like it or hate it players can work within the system. Instead we will see some item they can show off to see if they can sell in the SE store. But right now we have oh no hate/dps and oh no tanks care to much about numbers. What if all the hate skills were like flash with 0 dps would people do them?

Tanking population has at least a % that don't care about tanks they are there to dps and get fast ques. Enough of those people are out in the duty finder to cause friction and paint people who str in a bad light.

[Inuk9]

I got a 35k HP PLD at lv 70 in susano extreme, to make things better, he was MTing in Sword oath. He died in the first tank buster in the fiirst phase. It was from 100% to 0%

[Wizhard]

I got a 35k HP PLD at lv 70 in susano extreme, to make things better, he was MTing in Sword oath. He died in the first tank buster in the fiirst phase. It was from 100% to 0%

After a few pulls that should not be happening anymore, susano does that cleave thing twice in the first phase, on a set rotation(three times if dps is low).

[Coatl]

I got a 35k HP PLD at lv 70 in susano extreme, to make things better, he was MTing in Sword oath. He died in the first tank buster in the fiirst phase. It was from 100% to 0%

Oh hey I had that yesterday too. We also had a solo healer and they were in a sort of 5 stack. It's completely doable, but that Paladin was still in the wrong as he shouldn't have assumed that his healers could adjust or were even comfortable in doing so. He also didn't pop any CDs as I can live it just fine as DRK.

Randoms = Assume the worst and try to waste as little time as possible.

[Xtrasweettea]

So this tank goes in pulls 1 group of 3 monsters, takes 3 hits and died before the heal can be off. I'm on my dps watching this tank wearing all strength jewelry and I'm like are you serious why would you wear dps jewelry as a tank?

For those of us who are probably wondering about, y'know context, I have the answer! I was in that particular party with the OP so I took a screenshot before the tank was raised, I couldn't believe how fast the tank tanked the floor:


This is clearly that WAR's fault for using STR only gear.

Seriously, though, it would have been nice to get some context... unless context would kill the OP's argument... just like 3 mobs on a STR only tank.

[Coatl]

LMAO. What am I looking at!

[XoanGrahm]

Gotta love tanks not having enough HP to survive a crit tank buster/auto attack combo in Susano EX because they're too busy wearing ilvl 270 str accessories for muh sick deeps.

No, if they don't have enough HP to survive a crit tank buster/auto attack combo then they arn't mitigating properly. They are playing poorly. I have lost count of the runs I've done on Susano EX and the only thing that gets me killed, is people messing up mechanics. Actually, As WAR in full strength, I dont think I've seen Susano's Stomesplitter take me below half health.

The problem in that instance doesn't fall on the healers, or the accessories the tank uses, but on lack of skill on the tank's part alone.

[Ametrine]

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I should clarify then I mean anything as it all enemies. All enemies can crit.

What some of us healers have seen is these situations where, unless the healer is plenty overgeared and the tank is in the best gear on the right (or smart enough to mix vit/str, as you offered), a crit auto-attack immediately after a nasty cleave or multiple mobs going ham getting lucky crits IS killing tanks.

An ON LEVEL healer cannot deal with that. Sheild healers can't always prep for that, either, as HoT is sorta broken on Scholar (Eos is op but it's a long CD and Excog is weak and eats Aetherflow) and non-existent on Noct AST.

The issue is the lack of any wiggle room to account for consecutive heavy hits, AoE dodging, utility/support skill usage, etc. The amount of pressure put on healers with this is obscene.
And that's even when healer DPS is at zero!

[Xtrasweettea]

LMAO. What am I looking at!

What you are looking at is my version of context because the OP didn't give any besides the number of mobs and the number of attacks. No player levels, no party setup, no dungeon, etc. So, until the OP provides that information, I am going to assume it was some low level dungeon with party members that fit the "average player according to the forums" (IE: Ice Mages everywhere and healers who don't DPS and would rather watch Netflix).

I think I have covered every forum meme except the "Mentor" meme and the DRG being dead because lolDRG meme.