[Suggestion] Monthly Housing Upkeep

[touya]

So, those of us who get houses, are to be more punished?

For characters that don't have houses, can we impose a fee on them then? Like a "Well, you have to pay because everyone else has to and you're just sitting on your gil and not using it for anything currently" tax? I mean, it doesn't have to be much. On top of people paying their monthly sub, they would only have to pay like say 5% of their total gil on all retainers/person. Because they're just sitting around hording gil and not putting it back into the economy. If you want to tax those of us who have houses and already have restrictions and limitations just because you get your panties in a bunch about people putting in hard work, then those of us that have houses should be able to demand taxes and fees on those who don't have one or who are trying to save for anything.

[SirBrighton]

So, those of us who get houses, are to be more punished?

Paying bills is not a punishment. Is this not how owning a house in real life works? Owning a house doesn't mean you get free utilities too, you must pay for those (unless you want to live in a house with no power).

For characters that don't have houses, can we impose a fee on them then? Like a "Well, you have to pay because everyone else has to and you're just sitting on your gil and not using it for anything currently" tax?

Wow, the angry sarcasm though. Gil isn't a limited resource shared between all players on your server. I can sit on max gil and not affect your ability to get it yourself in any way.
Also, there is no "putting it back into the economy" with gil because it is created and removed by the system, not the economy, and the system has an infinite supply.
The lack of logic in your questions really shows just whose panties are in a bunch here.

[touya]

Paying bills is not a punishment. Is this not how owning a house in real life works? Owning a house doesn't mean you get free utilities too, you must pay for those

Is this a job? Or is this a game? Meant for entertainment and fun? I'm pretty sure Yoshi-P and the dev team are going to see this at some point and ask the same question. I don't pay SE so I can have another job. I pay them for a game to have fun with in their world and systems. The people who bought those plots DID NOTHING WRONG. And also on this note: You're not even on that server. People are whining about something that isn't even affecting them or their server worlds. Tell me, What TOS did these two players break? NONE. If anything, everyone who is against them is in fact harassing them which IS against TOS and all those against it deserve a ban imo under the TOS harassment section.

[SirBrighton]

Is this a job? Or is this a game? Meant for entertainment and fun?

The game has market taxes. Are those fun? From your point of view, paying additional fees is a punishment. Do you think Yoshi-P and the dev team questioned whether or not to add that feature to the game? Well it's in the game, so you know what they decided on.
Now the real question. If this is supposed to be a game meant for fun, why would they add something so not-fun like taxes to the game, especially when the taxed amount doesn't even go "back into the economy"?

[touya]

The game has market taxes. Are those fun? From your point of view, paying additional fees is a punishment. Do you think Yoshi-P and the dev team questioned whether or not to add that feature to the game? Well it's in the game, so you know what they decided on.
Now the real question. If this is supposed to be a game meant for fun, why would they add something so not-fun like taxes to the game, especially when the taxed amount doesn't even go "back into the economy"?

Lol, we both know those "taxes" are avoided if you're in that zone are. so if i buy a 10M item and instead of paying 5% on that, i can spend the cheaper fee to teleport to that area and get it without taxes. Does your solution offer tax exemption like the MB does? Also, these taxes are ON PLAYER MADE ITEMS. NPCs do not have taxes. Thus, things controlled by players have taxes. I can't craft and sell you a plot, thus the plots should not be taxed.

[SirBrighton]

Lol, we both know those "taxes" are avoided if you're in that zone are. so if i buy a 10M item and instead of paying 5% on that, i can spend the cheaper fee to teleport to that area and get it without taxes.

You know sales tax and import tax are different, right? The sales tax is removed from the listed amount and the rest is given to the seller, and if you're in a different city than the retainer when you buy something from them then there is a 5% import tax. That's a TIL for you.
Right now the only city offering 0% sales tax is Kugane, meaning unless all of your retainers are dispatched there, you are forced to pay 3-5% sales tax.
As for the comment about NPCs not having tax, I think you meant NPCs don't have an import tax, which makes sense since you're right there. And if you want to get real technical, NPCs are charged 100% sales tax since the money just returns to the system.

[Aronys]

Paying bills is not a punishment. Is this not how owning a house in real life works? Owning a house doesn't mean you get free utilities too, you must pay for those (unless you want to live in a house with no power).

One problem. I don't want to deal with the same issues in a fantasy game, that I deal with in real life.

No, I don't want to pay rent. I finally got my house and I know that I will play this game for a long time. I am happy with my small house, I have everything I need there. I log in every day and enter my house every day as I grow stuff both indoors and outdoors. I have crafting stations in there where I craft and sell on the market board. I am using my house to the fullest, and I don't need to pay more each month, after I finally got enough to get this, just so i don't lose it.

Bills are a RL thing. Upkeep can stay away from my fantasy games. I didn't like that system in LOTRO, and I don't want it here.