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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Are you talking about this post? If so, I found it an excellent read when he first posted it. I'm a huge fan of his insight xD
    Yep that's the one. There's good discussion in the comments too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    How did AST get shored up in the oGCD department in any way to rival WHM? We have Earthly Star
    Earthly Star is extremely powerful and one a 60s CD. See the post Gish just linked for a bit more on that. But it lines up perfectly with, for example, Ukehi, and if you have Noct A.Helios shield up going into it, it's the only healing you need. It's similarly powerful in Lakshmi Ex.

    And then there's Lady. It's 50/50, but it's another oGCD heal. ED's on a very short 40s cooldown, you can channel CU for just 1 tick for the most powerful AoE regen in the game at no cost (and that's saying something when considering it's going up against Whispering Dawn), and so on. Does WHM have more oGCDs? Sure, but let's not pretend AST is hurting for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by xNewbx View Post
    SCH/AST is currently the top priority for easy/fast clears in the EX primals. Given we haven't seen Omega Savage, so there's no telling what will happen, but to note one thing. It was said that every healer will be able to heal the content. So I don't really see that changing once progression is over.

    Still funny how people complain about the SCH, yet it's already being preferred over the WHM for EX primals. Let's just buff it up anyways so the WHM gets put right into the dirt. At least let the WHM be the most useful in one thing, which is most likely progression.
    Hmm... yeah, perhaps the buff SCH calls are a bit premature afterall. OTOH, if a ton of people hate how SCH plays now, SE may feel pressured to make changes anyways...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    WHM has a better MP sustainability and better oGCDs, allowing WHM to have more longevity. AST had that in the past due to both lower MP costs and a significantly better version of Shroud of Saints. Now that WHM has Thin Air and Lucid Dreaming (which is the same for both healers) and a significant number of 0MP ability heals, WHM has now taken that crown completely, as well as now having the strongest throughput out of all three healers.
    I have to flat out disagree with you here. Don't forget AST can still extend lucid dreaming. And while lightspeed's 25% MP reduction might seem paltry compared to Thin Air, it also lasts a GCD longer and, with AST's reduced MP costs, adds up pretty nicely.

    I would say the skill floor for AST MP management feels a little higher. You have to place ES in the right spot 10s in advance. Lord/Lady adds even more micromangement to the card system. You need to hold CU for about 2 seconds without accidentally even so much as right click swinging the camera. But if you are using AST's full toolkit, it's power is no joke and can get through any current content, including several raises, without using a single card draw on Ewer for MP.
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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 07-08-2017 at 02:59 AM. Reason: 1000chr