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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Raise your voices sure, but don't blame 2 people who worked within parameters to achieve something they planned out. They didn't 'sploit or cheat. They didn't even game the system.
    Do you honestly feel like if SE intended for people to own as many houses as they wanted, it would be restricted like it is right now to 1 per character?

    Also, your examples are...poor. Plenty of people have invested just as much time into trying to get a house as these people. It's not the same as getting a significant other, or buying a car. Especially since cars are not exactly in limited supply. I don't know about your parents, but mine raised me to share.

    Also, I'm an RPer. If you design your house generically enough it's hardly an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Do you honestly feel like if SE intended for people to own as many houses as they wanted...
    I think SE thought alts wouldn't really have a chance to meet housing req's while there were still houses available I think SE INTENDED for it to be a house per character as long as that character met reqs: level, money, story.

    I apologize if my examples don't directly translate.. Cars and people ARE in limited supply though. Say ... classic cars. They will never be made again. Are the people who bought them and are collecting them GREEDY because they won't sell me one? My parents INDEED raised me to share, and taught me that nobody HAS to share if they don't want to . You are not entitled to someone else's gains no matter how unfair you think the system is.

    People RP differently. some people wouldn't be able to reconcile 2 characters with vastly different narratives in one house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Cars and people ARE in limited supply though. Say ... classic cars. They will never be made again. Are the people who bought them and are collecting them GREEDY because they won't sell me one? My parents INDEED raised me to share, and taught me that nobody HAS to share if they don't want to . You are not entitled to someone else's gains no matter how unfair you think the system is.
    This is not a valid argument. They aren't made due to several reasons; gas mileage, carbon output, and crash ratings. It has nothing to do with "greed" but safety ratings. Most of these cars now are show cars. They're not used for their intended purpose.

    I wish people would stop making stupid arguments to try to weasel around that doing what they are doing is fine. It's not. They're hoarding TONS of server space, empty houses, for no reason other than greed. How anyone can agree that this is great and wonderful needs some serious reflection.

    And this, this from one of the two...

    "You, who don’t care about the fact that we have cultivated something unique, interesting, and amazing, because you feel it denies you the chance to throw up a hideous paissa wall and plop a chocobo stable and a garden plot in front of an otherwise unused black hole with Dragonsong screeching away in the background."

    "How dare you. If you would look at something other than the placards in your impotent rage that the same FC tag is on a few of them, you just might notice you’re standing in one of the best goddamn wards in the entire game.

    "If you really want someone to demonize, the people in Goblet 12sub – all those homes owned by FCless characters, whose homes are closed or, in some cases, entirely unbuilt – actually did what you thought we did. But you know what? Whatever. They still put the work in before those without homes." (Because you didn't work fast enough to game the system like them).

    Seriously, these guys need counseling >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I know lots of people who drive classics everyday as their cars. But I'll stop with that comparison if it doesn't work for you.
    You obviously have no idea about classic/ collector cars. To be deemed one, it has to be registered as one. They're ONLY allowed to be driven to shows, car meetings, parades, etc. They are NOT allowed to be driven for "pleasure". I'm sorry but the 80's muscle cars you're drooling over aren't classic/collector cars. Your argument is invalid.
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    Last edited by Seraphyna; 07-08-2017 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    This is not a valid argument. ..
    I know lots of people who drive classics everyday as their cars. But I'll stop with that comparison if it doesn't work for you.
    What they are doing is within mechanics and established rules. I never said it was great or wonderful. What I'm saying is they aren't the evil people everyone is making them out to be. Don't be mad at 2 people, they are very likely NOT going to change their minds. Be vocal to the creators of the game, for they are the ones who made the system that allowed this AND have the power to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    I wish people would stop making stupid arguments to try to weasel around that doing what they are doing is fine. It's not. They're hoarding TONS of server space, empty houses, for no reason other than greed. How anyone can agree that this is great and wonderful needs some serious reflection.
    They're either trolling or really have their priorities assed-backwards.

    "You, who don’t care about the fact that we have cultivated something unique, interesting, and amazing, because you feel it denies you the chance to throw up a hideous paissa wall and plop a chocobo stable and a garden plot in front of an otherwise unused black hole with Dragonsong screeching away in the background."
    I'll ask Yoshi P to get you that gated community package you desperately deserve then for all your hard work...

    And the other stuff... seriously, major ego's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    "You, who don’t care about the fact that we have cultivated something unique, interesting, and amazing, because you feel it denies you the chance to throw up a hideous paissa wall and plop a chocobo stable and a garden plot in front of an otherwise unused black hole with Dragonsong screeching away in the background."
    See I'm not going to lie, I want instanced housing mostly for the fact that I'll no longer be surrounded on all sides by hideous houses that make me cringe each time I run to the market board. However I'm not going to buy an entire ward just so I can take my toys and run off into the sunset with them. Just because I find a lot of people's decorating senses to be lacking doesn't mean I have any right to deny them the chance to have fun simply because I think I can do better some of the time. That's such egotistical and backwards thinking that it's a wonder to me that these people even allowed themselves to be put on record as saying this trite.

    Also quite honestly, I'd much rather have a ward decorated to the brim with Moogle Poms and Paissa houses than a ward with empty gardens that sit in front of equally barren and locked houses. That ward looks dead for lack of a better term and the homogeneous nature of their aesthetic makes it all the worst for those few houses they have managed to decorate. It's boring and lacks life even more than the ward my FC resides in.
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    Last edited by Enla; 07-08-2017 at 06:20 AM.