1 account buying 14 houses in 1 ward.

[Krotoan]

.. probably, from what I've read they did nothing maliciously. They just don't want to give up what they've built simply to please maybe.. 24 other people, lets say 200 in the off chance that ALL those houses get picked up by FCs and everyone gets to enjoy them. They enjoy what they've made and are responding with understandable standoffish attitudes to what probably amounts to hundreds of abusive /tells, messages, and posts.

do they have a moral duty to give those up so other people can have housing? . NO. A thousand times no. There are other servers, other games and other things people can do. It took me a year and a half of hoping, saving and finally stalking the demolition times to get my SMALL house. I begrudge nobody who held on to their plots or was able to get there before me, we all had the same opportunities. Shirogane is coming up, I hope I can get a house. I hope I'll be able to use the moving system for my personal plot....( continued)

[Krotoan]

I will be sad if I don't get anything, but I'm not gonna blame anyone but the game designer.

Raise your voices sure, but don't blame 2 people who worked within parameters to achieve something they planned out. They didn't 'sploit or cheat. They didn't even game the system. Just put in time and slowly but surely bought out one house at a time in one ward. Complain to SQ. Message them. Petition them. If you want them to listen give them ideas on how to get more servers setup for housing and putting money in their pockets (sorry this is what will work, that's how a company thinks). You will achieve nothing by berating 2 individuals who seem selfish to you.

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[Krotoan]

I stand with the 2, and say to the rest: if you want something done about it, complain to someone who can do something about it. If I was friends with these two I'd give them a raised eyebrow over the practice, but they've done nothing wrong. People seem mainly mad because they aren't "getting theirs". "they aren't doing anything with all those houses!" .. how do you know? It looks barren to you? do you know their RP narrative? maybe the resident in that house in that story is dead.. or very spartan.. or whatever. Not your house, not your problem.


and restricting everyone to 1 house? how is that fair? people pay for alts.. will they get reimbursed ? "make all houses accessible by all alts on one account"? I'm sure all the RP-ers are going to LOVE that you just made them smash all their wildly different characters into one narrative. (end)

[Sairys]

I mean like... simple FC search shows 2279 single person free companies with an estate and recruitment closed, the Mateus FC's show up in this search. Add in the number of open ones and those with a plot(1674/22) it goes up to 3975.

Cause they're not just buying a personal house, the individuals running the FCs probably also have their own house. So that's 7950 houses, which is over three and a half servers worth of housing plots, potentially on top of more houses on mains which are in actual FCs. This is also before considering that some of the other super small free companies (2-3 players) might also be used for the same purpose.

Vague maths say that's something like 5% of the total housing in the game, across all servers. At a glance over half of the FC owned housing game-wide is held by free companies with ten members or less.

[Sairys]

So yeah, I think that one personal house per account per server is completely fair, particularly given that RPers (if that's really a concern) could just go to other servers or invest in apartments.

Putting in some activity requirements for FC houses, as opposed to just entering, could ensure that the houses are going to active FCs rather than likely 1000s of FCs that are probably only used every few weeks to keep the houses. Shouldn't be too much, but really, it should be hard for one person alone to maintain one, increasingly so for each additional Fc

Also making a special FC only district with even better plots could encourage people to move them into there freeing up space in the regular wards. Maybe castles with apartment sized rooms? If the activity requirements were added, you could even make them based on plot size so that the castles require really active groups to maintain.

Wouldn't mean everyone gets a house sure, but it could mean nearly eight thousand people do.

[EthanParcival]

This http://kotaku.com/two-final-fantasy-...par-1796692020 article shows players that defend their posture of buying dozens of homes because they could. And that's alright, they had the money, the houses were available and they got them... Up to that point there's nothing wrong with that...

However now that the houses are in short supply because many refugees from more crowded worlds arrived to that server they rightfully feel aggravated coz they're being denied a gaming resource, even tho they moved to a smaller world.

The multi-house owners defend their position argument that “ for example, not everyone deserves the Savage raiding mounts if they don’t do Alexander. “ but that argument gets killed by the fact that you don’t get more than ONE SINGLE mount no matter how much Alexander you do and no one gets deprived of a mount if they do Alexander...

It’s not like the system is keeping other players from getting the mounts that work hard for them just coz some overachievers got them all... And in the housing scene the system is keeping houses from other players just coz someone else got them all first.

So we all agree the housing system is poorly designed, and these guys took advantage of a situation.

No point crying over spilled milk. So, moving forward...

On the upside this latest housing scandal will probably force SE to take some action and hopefully add more houses and lock down housing to "ONE HOUSE PER SERVICE ACCOUNT PER WORLD"...

If they already got 20 then thats ok, but they can't get more, no matter how much money they got. And if they sell or relinquish them they do the system a favor, until they reach the limit.

[Elamys]

Raise your voices sure, but don't blame 2 people who worked within parameters to achieve something they planned out. They didn't 'sploit or cheat. They didn't even game the system.

Do you honestly feel like if SE intended for people to own as many houses as they wanted, it would be restricted like it is right now to 1 per character?

Also, your examples are...poor. Plenty of people have invested just as much time into trying to get a house as these people. It's not the same as getting a significant other, or buying a car. Especially since cars are not exactly in limited supply. I don't know about your parents, but mine raised me to share.

Also, I'm an RPer. If you design your house generically enough it's hardly an issue.

[Lothaire_Valtan]

I wonder how many people complaining here would give up the houses if the positions were reversed? If you'd been playing on an empty server where no-one had been using the houses, and you'd put months and months of time and effort into leveling characters, raising the funds to buy those plots, and hours upon hours decorating them.... would you be willing to just hand them over for nothing because a sudden influx of players demanded that you should? And be honest. Would you really be that nice?

The housing system in this game is broken, and certainly there should have been a limit of one personal and one fc house per account from the beginning, but housing on Mateus has been empty for years while servers like Balmung have been so overcrowded that even smalls there are being hawked at 40million just to relinquish. While I do have sympathy for completely new players who never had a chance to save up and buy a place before the influx happened, there was nothing stopping anyone from transferring to Mateus, or making a new character there, if housing was really that important to them.

People should really be directing their ire at SE for making such a limited housing system. The two people with the houses in the Goblet, Ward 12, didn't buy those places up out of spite or to flip them like greedy idiots on Balmung do with every housing update. They simply played the game and channeled their time and effort into something that no one else on the server had much interest in.

And while, yes, owning an entire ward between two people is excessive, and yes, it would be nice of the people currently hoarding houses on Mateus to offer them up to new players, its not right for people to be hurling abuse at them for it either. Stamping your feet and demanding that they relinquish everything now because suddenly people/you want to buy them after years of no interest in such a small server isn't going to accomplish anything.

Instead, we should be petitioning SE to fix their broken housing system. Or at the very least open up new wards to account for the demand, now that even the smallest servers are selling out of plots.

[Elamys]

Can we stop saying they bought those houses after they were "empty for years?" Ward 12 was added last June and they bought them days afterwards. They were empty for a few days.

Also, they are not using all the houses they own, so clearly it's a waste for them to own so many. At least get rid of the ones that are empty/locked/barely touched.

[GDFletcher]

Well when people are willing to use the "Gil" seller service to get millions of gil to afford it what can you expect. The best thing SE could do for the housing is this

Allow 1x Plot of Land that cover Small - Medium - Large for a FC that reaches Rank 8 but to build the Hall you need to spend the company coins, 500k gets you 1 small cottage then you need 1,000,000 company coins to upgrade the Cottage to a Two Storey home and then 1,500,000 to convert to the mansion.

Players that rich 2nd Lt with their respective Grand Company should be allow to continue to buy apartments but by using Company Seal (and remove the cap) It would cost the player 500,000 company seal to buy the apartment. For players wanting to own a plot of land they would need to complete an housing quest chain similar to the Anima weapon, whereby the player needs to do various thing, this would include find the land, cultivate it and make sure its foundations were ready etc like the beast tribes do. Once the land is sorted the player would then need to use the Tomb Stones to purchase items that could be handed in to a builder to develop the cottage/house/mansion the more you hand in the quicker the building is constructed.

This would over night destroy the only reason to use the GIL seller