As a Tank main, please revert tanks back to VIT+STR Scaling

[Kelg]

There was nothing wrong with this formula, and there was no good reason to change it. If you are worried that we will be too strong after dying, then change the weakness stat to lower damage dealt instead. This would fix all of the tank problems, while keeping the healers happy. It's a simple fix really. HP inflation(lol) will be a thing no matter what with the way our accessories are.

[Driavna]

There was nothing wrong with this formula, and there was no good reason to change it. If you are worried that we will be too strong after dying, then change the weakness stat to lower damage dealt instead. This would fix all of the tank problems, while keeping the healers happy. It's a simple fix really. HP inflation(lol) will be a thing no matter what with the way our accessories are.

Yes, there was something wrong with the formula but the current "solution" is not fair for tanks either.

[Kelg]

Yes, there was something wrong with the formula but the current "solution" is not fair for tanks either.

What was wrong with it? I thought it was great and made sense, unlike STR scaling.

[Mostly_Raxus]

the census seems to think it's so a good tank cant out dps a bad DPS, or so tanks incur a weakness for being rezed, both dumb reasons in my own opinion.. What punishment does the tank face for dying mid fight? maybe the wipe that follows? or the loss of the DPS LB3? really it feels petty because a warrior out DPS'd a bard (that might as well of been a carry) to lose to a tank.
ill let these changes slide if they tank VIT off all gear not tank related, its a tank stat see, dps/heals have no business using it lol

[Zojha]

Honestly, there are ways to make anything, full VIT, full STR and hybrid scaling work.

They're just being stupid and stubborn about it.

By far and wide the easiest fix would be to just put STR and VIT on accessories as they put it on the left side gear already. They're job locked anyway.
More convoluted, they can convert tank accessories to STR only and then either buff tank stance, or put more VIT on left side gear to compensate.
They can make tanks scale full off VIT and then simply set the contribution ratio of VIT to damage to the ratio between VIT and other main stats. At worst, that's one number change per big patch.

It's really not rocket science. There's no reason for them to struggle so much.

[Baalfrog]

What was wrong with it? I thought it was great and made sense, unlike STR scaling.

The thing is, weakness in it's current form doesn't give you penalty for vit, so tanks wouldnt be penalized as hard for dying, when it should be pretty much the worst thing that can happen, so that would be backwards. BUT the tank in full slaying will be fixed in some manner come 4.05 and then it will be fine, probably.

[Kazrah]

What was wrong with it? I thought it was great and made sense, unlike STR scaling.

Basically tank damage was being too relied on for specific content (by which I mean nearly all content), so it was reverted back to STR so that the only real damage that would make or break a fight is coming from party members specifically there just to do damage.

The only real issue that came from the reversion is that a general deficiency of enmity generation became an issue in most circumstances and would only get worse as players grew further in power and item level. The current fix was to give flat increases in enmity generation to skills designed to generate threat, but that's just a band-aid to fix a severed arm. The fix then would be to find a way of making enmity generation for tanks--not damage, just enmity generation--adequately scalable so that it can continue to be beneficial amidst healers and dps getting stronger.

Remember, at the end of the day, you're a tank. You're the decoy. You're not a dps, and dealing damage is not--and should not--be a priority on any level.

[Kitfox]

What was wrong with it? I thought it was great and made sense, unlike STR scaling.

It's a balancing problem.

Increasing tank DPS through VIT has these possible side-effects:
-Tank eHP is increased in comparison to incoming damage
-Non-tank eHP is reduced if tank eHP is balanced by increasing incoming damage

Likewise, reducing tank DPS through VIT has the opposite side-effects:
-Tank eHP is reduced in comparison to incoming damage
-Non-tank eHP is increased if tank eHP is balanced by reducing incoming damage

[Zojha]

Remember, at the end of the day, you're a tank. You're the decoy. You're not a dps, and dealing damage is not--and should not--be a priority on any level.

Remember that at the end of the day, mitigation and healing are binary pass/fail checks and completely worthless past the pass point. It's not surprising people aren't willing to excel at worthlessness and make something that actually matters a priority instead - namely damage.

People really need to get the thought out of their head that the trinity would somehow have 3 equally important pillars. The only thing that truly matters is damage, tanking and healing are literally chores you "have to" do because of un-avoidable damage, but they are completely useless beyond that.

[ScarletDawn]

Why not just increase the enmity that the tanking stances produce would of seemed the more logical step, switch stance to dps stance after a provoke affect on target which transfers enmity to the caster of provoke.

That way it helps dump aggro easier for tank swaps...

Job done!