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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hioki View Post
    True story. STR Tanking is a thing again. It's dumb, but it's a thing again until SE provides a fix. Until then, make proper use of CD's and swap pieces as necessary if your df healer is undergeared/skilled.
    even with the best geared healer, not much you can do when an Omega "boss" pops a tank buster and it one shots the tank because they're sporting STR 270 gear. (yup, i've seen this happen too. Not as much, thank God, but I have seen it).

    Honestly, it feels like some tanks "found a way to get around the system with STR" but in actuality it makes them poorer tanks when they think it makes them better tanks. I mean I guess it makes sense, they're in a dungeon doing their thing...but they don't see the healer in the background spamming heals like it's going out of style just to keep them alive.
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    Last edited by Annah; 07-07-2017 at 01:35 PM.

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    K'hali Thalen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    Honestly, it feels like some tanks "found a way to get around the system with STR" but in actuality it makes them poorer tanks when they think it makes them better tanks. I mean I guess it makes sense, they're in a dungeon doing their thing...but they don't see the healer in the background spamming heals like it's going out of style just to keep them alive.
    Death and Taxes syndrome, it happens in every game. Some group of experienced players find a 'better' way of doing things (often the difference is just a handful of percent in performance), that require a higher skill floor to execute, players read 'This way is better' and read into it as 'If you're NOT doing it this way, you are trash tier'. Suddenly every sprout and his minion is trying to jump into the deep end and making a huge mess of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Wait.. are we going to pretend that in a random PUG environment all (or even most) tanks micromanage their STR accessories to competently balance out the risks? All the more amazing when they don't even know the capabilities of the crew they've been randomly paired with.
    I'm saying that if someone is going to start messing with STR/VIT trade-offs, they'd better know what the hell they're doing and do it right. See my above comment.

    My post on the front page and discussion of the topic is written on the basis that people know what they are doing. If Johnny Rando throws on a full set of STR jewellery and plows his face into Susano EX's sword that ain't on me - Because my advice was to balance your stats. If in doubt, err on the side of caution and lean towards VIT, not STR; failsafe, not faildangerous
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post

    I'm saying that if someone is going to start messing with STR/VIT trade-offs, they'd better know what the hell they're doing and do it right. See my above comment.
    While ideal to always know what they're getting into that a not quite the mentality of the newer and more "sheep" following tank players who only make the tank STR because they "heard from someone" or "this source say so".

    It gets annoying when the "Sheep" tanks only go STR because they were told it is better and ignore all suggestion that it is better to balance between VIT/STR accessories if they're going into a DF random group since no one know the skill level they may get from other teams and their only response to sticking with pure STR Accessory is "this source proves I am right" and "the forums disussion say other wise".

    There are more "Sheep" tanks than people believe

    ("sheep" are what I call players that only follow a certain trend because they saw others do so or because they are told to do so without knowing the full aspect of both benefits and consequences. They don't really play for themselves but play becuase it is the "big thing" right now before following the herd to the next new "big thing")
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-08-2017 at 12:43 AM.