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  1. #91
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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Scholar Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    Why don't they just scale dmg off of VIT and make STR act as a sub-stat for tenacity?
    I really don't know, there is so many ways they could fix this - Desync tank damage from STR like in 3.X, change how VIT-to-HP scale works for tanks, lock tanks to just 1 type of jewelry which has a preset balance of STR and VIT. They control all the variables the 'HP scaling' is a pretty poor arguement.

    But they need to be aware that if they keep trying to nerf tank damage, then it's going to drive away a lot of tank players. PLD's might've rolled their class purely for tanking, but WAR came for the fell cleaves, take away the big numbers and they're going to follow them elsewhere. I don't really understand why they WANT Tanks to do low damage; afterall the number of tanks in a party is limited and you can scale the boss HP on the assumption the tank is dealing DPS-level damage and it won't change a thing, except making the tank feel less like an overglorified target backstop.
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    Last edited by RyuujinZERO; 07-07-2017 at 12:17 PM.

  2. #92
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    Why don't they just scale dmg off of VIT and make STR act as a sub-stat for tenacity?
    Because designing dungeons and raids around the healer/tank/dps trinity is very easy, (hence why it's the MMO standard), but balancing the damage a tank should be able to output is a nut no game designer has ever cracked. And the FFXIV team is spectacularly hostile to public beta testing, for some reason.
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  3. #93
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    They're probably going to whether you want it or not. Now the question is whether they'll fix tenacity.
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  4. #94
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    They should go and either make VIT cover the majority of a tanks scaling or throw a decent sized chunk of STR on the vit accessories.
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  5. #95
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Real tanks - responsible tanks, in a PUG will look at the dungeon content, know it's hazards, examine and test their healer in the opening pull, and weigh up their competence and risks BEFORE they decide what strength/vit ratio they're going to roll with and the size of the pulls they might attempt. Tanking is a stressful enough job without immediately getting the ire of your party right out the gate by screwing things up by pushing your team beyond their limits.
    Tell me how many of these you run into in the DF, compared to the ones that just go gung-ho without caring. I'll wait.
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  6. #96
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Tell me how many of these you run into in the DF, compared to the ones that just go gung-ho without caring. I'll wait.
    Every single dungeon since Stormblood <.<

    ...I don't meet a lot of tanks outside of my own FC and the formal tank 'community'. There's only 1 tank per party in most dungeons and therefore it's usually me.
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    Last edited by RyuujinZERO; 07-07-2017 at 12:33 PM.

  7. #97
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    Fynlar Eira
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    So you really don't have any actual scope of the problem, yet you still feel compelled to talk about it like you do. Okay.
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  8. #98
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    They should go and either make VIT cover the majority of a tanks scaling or throw a decent sized chunk of STR on the vit accessories.
    the former over the latterr imo. Otherwise DPS would just pick up those accessories, probably. Then again, Tenacity is just gross, so probably not.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    So you really don't have any actual scope of the problem, yet you still feel compelled to talk about it. Okay.
    Well to listen to YOU talk, I don't exist!
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirith View Post
    So this tank goes in pulls 1 group of 3 monsters, takes 3 hits and died before the heal can be off. I'm on my dps watching this tank wearing all strength jewelry and I'm like are you serious why would you wear dps jewelry as a tank?
    Assuming you're not exaggerating about how fast that happened, this has nothing to do with what jewelry they were wearing.
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