LOLSE, We're not wearing 270 STR to hold hate, c'mon now...

[Odstarva]

Can anybody of the "muhdontneeddps" people explain why the majority of new skills for the tanks are dps skills and not tools to further increase our mitigation/survivability

Another warrior.


*cough*

I never said we don't need to dps. I said it isn't our primary concern. Or secondary. Tertiary concern, maybe.
I'll write it out again - of course we should maximize our dps output. But it starts and ends there. It's silly that some tanks (warriors) believe that DPS is the end-goal. We aren't the damage dealers in our group. We aren't.

"It isn't even our secondary concern" and "of course we should maximize our DPS output" feels like incredibly contradictory statements.

To elaborate, what I meant by it is that although I completely agree we should play to the best of our ability, it isn't something we should actively worry about. Like, I always try to do my best because otherwise I'm not having fun but if I need to pick between dealing a few more numbers and eating a buster, or dealing a bit less and taking less damage, I'll go with the latter.

[Kinkoz]

I never said we don't need to dps. I said it isn't our primary concern. Or secondary. Tertiary concern, maybe.
I'll write it out again - of course we should maximize our dps output. But it starts and ends there. It's silly that some tanks (warriors) believe that DPS is the end-goal. We aren't the damage dealers in our group. We aren't.

"It isn't even our secondary concern" and "of course we should maximize our DPS output" feels like incredibly contradictory statements.

[Kinkoz]

To elaborate, what I meant by it is that although I completely agree we should play to the best of our ability, it isn't something we should actively worry about.

But it has been something we've had to actively worry about in past content, and still do to a potentially lesser degree in the current content. It remains to be seen for certain with Omega Savage.

[VargasVermillion]

I never said we don't need to dps. I said it isn't our primary concern. Or secondary. Tertiary concern, maybe.

you're right about that however holding aggro and reducing damage are a pass or fail scenario, there's barely any difference between a tank that focuses on these things, there is no skill ceiling. when damage is a factor however things change significantly.