LOLSE, We're not wearing 270 STR to hold hate, c'mon now...

[Odstarva]

Just because warriors (in general) are being loud (and extremely vocal) about losing their DPS doesn't mean we all are.

I know more than a few tanks, dark knights and paladins, that are -just- fine with the changes being made. Heck, we've had a few discussions regarding the whole mentality that tanks should be a relevant contributor to damage.

Do not misunderstand, don't even try to make it out like I like being lazy. I -always- try to maximize my DPS when I'm playing paladin or dark knight, I do, be it dungeon or ex trial or raid content. Likewise, I try to optimize the usage of my cooldowns so I'm not caught with my pants down when tank busters are on the way - but I do not get ANY satisfaction from seeing big numbers. It's not my primary concern. It never should have been.

My job is to keep the enmity, to position the enemy accordingly, to mitigate damage for myself and my party. Just like with healers, I agree that I should try my best to optimize my damage output, of course I should, I like to believe that's what separates a good tank from a great tank. But it's a bonus, it should never have been a requirement.

[FallenWings]

Another warrior.

Point on this doll where the big bad 3.0 Warrior touched you.

[YitharV2]

My job is to keep the enmity, to position the enemy accordingly, to mitigate damage for myself and my party. Just like with healers, I agree that I should try my best to optimize my damage output, of course I should, I like to believe that's what separates a good tank from a great tank. But it's a bonus, it should never have been a requirement.

Sadly, I don't think you can change the mentality. I started in February, and from what I saw in Heavensward, people expected you to be amazing.

However, over the course of Heavensward the community mindset has shifted from "Expect the minimum, commend to exceptional" to "Expect the exceptional, chastise the minimum". Back in 2.X the DRG in your party would have been happy enough to clear without commenting on your DPS.

[Kinkoz]

However, over the course of Heavensward the community mindset has shifted from "Expect the minimum, commend to exceptional" to "Expect the exceptional, chastise the minimum". Back in 2.X the DRG in your party would have been happy enough to clear without commenting on your DPS.

Back in 2.x, the DRG in your party often ended up dead on the floor, so it's no surprise that they would've been happy to clear without commenting on your DPS.