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  1. #1
    Player
    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/09/02
    投稿
    1,660
    Character
    Sharl Llyntine
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 100

    WHM needs either a DPS buff, or utility

    Now that we're able to visually see the power of ASTs Balance, and just how much it makes a difference to the raid DPS, I think we need a DPS increase.

    In terms of our own DPS, we're not that far ahead of AST. Yet on top of ASTs own DPS, it offers a good 500-600 DPS to the raid.

    Now I'm not saying we should be doing 500 DPS above other healers, but we really have nothing that can compete with that. Our two main mechanics that were supposed to push us ahead, Lilies and Confessions, are mostly treated as passive buffs that doesn't need much attention. It's even joked that we should delete the lily gauge off our hotbars to successfully play a decent WHM, which is a problem in of itself.

    If you can actually make something unique and supportive out of confessions and lilies that's fine too, but if not, more direct DPS from us would do just fine.
    (2)

  2. #2
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/01
    投稿
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    If they balance around Omega's Delta floors... I don't think WHM is getting any kind of fixing, mostly thanks to SE kneecapping SCH. It will still be a problem long term though, because once SCH is fixed again... WHM will be back to being the only healer that can't buff raid DPS (while all the others can still heal just fine, if not better).
    (2)

  3. #3
    Player
    Firemblem's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/06/02
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    17
    Character
    Eilanzer Pekora
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    ガンブレイカー Lv 90
    The scholars look at this post and just cry in a sad corner in pure disbelief...
    (4)

  4. #4
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/01
    投稿
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Firemblem 投稿を閲覧
    The scholars look at this post and just cry in a sad corner in pure disbelief...
    Do you really think SCH won't be buffed in 4.05?

    Now whether it will be enough is another question. But then it's back to my previous post. As soon as SE fixes SCH... sooner or later... WHM's fundamental design issues will cause problems once again.

    For my part, I'd rather a raid DPS buff for WHM instead of personal DPS increase. In fact, nerf WHM DPS if they have to. Raid utility is the better deal.
    (1)
    2017/07/04 23:01; Risvertasashi が最後に編集

  5. #5
    Player
    Firemblem's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/06/02
    投稿
    17
    Character
    Eilanzer Pekora
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    ガンブレイカー Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Risvertasashi 投稿を閲覧
    Do you really think SCH won't be buffed in 4.05?
    After years of joke with paladin...Better to not expect anything and be surprised when any change comes XD
    (6)

  6. #6
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/01
    投稿
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Firemblem 投稿を閲覧
    After years of joke with paladin...Better to not expect anything and be surprised when any change comes XD
    ...OK yes, and with SE's recent track record here in particular, caution really is the way to go. Still, the ideas are the same. If WHM is OK just because one of the others has been unreasonably crippled... that's really not a comfortable place to be. Nor is it exactly great design.
    (4)

  7. #7
    Player
    Starflake's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/03/06
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    321
    Character
    Freja Reginleif
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    忍者 Lv 90
    Incredibly strong sustaining and bursting heals. Very good personal DPS, insane MP management, the ability to Raise people for free (can even Raise two for free with Swifcast and Presence of mind plus decent Spell Speed. But please Buff WHM and please give us more utility than being able to Raise people for nothing. K mate
    (10)

  8. #8
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/01
    投稿
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Starflake 投稿を閲覧
    Incredibly strong sustaining and bursting heals. Very good personal DPS, insane MP management, the ability to Raise people for free (can even Raise two for free with Swifcast and Presence of mind plus decent Spell Speed. But please Buff WHM and please give us more utility than being able to Raise people for nothing. K mate
    Right, because there's not some other healer with even stronger heals and the strongest, longest lasting DPS buff in the game...
    (2)

  9. #9
    Player
    Ghishlain's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/10/19
    投稿
    2,168
    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 80
    I think people are grossly underestimating the value of the MP sustain WHM currently brings to the table - especially for raid groups progressing through content that don't play at the World First / speed run skill level. With the way WHM is currently designed, it brings a large safety net and recovery potential that can't really be matched by the other two healers.
    (3)

  10. #10
    Player
    Lastelli's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/06/29
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    937
    Character
    Lastelli Sungsem
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    モンク Lv 90
    I'd say that Balance just needs to go back to 10%. That's it.
    (3)

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