And here it is I thought expansions where fun silly me

[Risvertasashi]

even if they'd added a new tank and healer role DPS queues are always going to be bad, simply because most players don't like the responsibility or playstyle that comes with those roles.

I think most of your post is pretty on the nose but--
In HW DPS were 'in need' on the roulette a few times. Even if it was temporary, it did cut DPS queues a lot for a time. That said, I can understand if adding 3 new jobs each expac isn't sustainable... SE did a least make pvp give tons of experience (Erm... less as of this morning's patch I think?), and there's PotD. Queues will still be bad for those one time mandatory dungeon run throughs but... outside of that, well, if you're leveling DPS don't do normal duties/roulettes, I think...

Of course, there's also the factor that SE alienated a good number of tanks/healers since their idea of class balance within a role is 'make one of them OP', among other issues...

[bswpayton]

I think most of your post is pretty on the nose but--
In HW DPS were 'in need' on the roulette a few times. Even if it was temporary, it did cut DPS queues a lot for a time. That said, I can understand if adding 3 new jobs each expac isn't sustainable... SE did a least make pvp give tons of experience (Erm... less

Even with pvp maybe its me but its extremely boring to go into the same instance over and over again the same frozen tundra time after time. If your lucky you might get a change of landscape but that only happens prob every ten runs and again everyone doesn't like pvp. I enjoyed pvp when it was something that i would do every day in a roulette just so I could change things up a bit but spamming it isnt fun if you like to win. And the chances of you winning every pvp match just isnt even realistic. Accepting losing to me just to get exp is a really stupid concept and giives no feel of accomplishment at all.

And also you may get a healer every ten runs or so in a way pvp is worse than it ever was before, because before the expansion someone would actually change to healer so you could actually be competitive, now because people are there just for the exp your running with teams that pretty much are fail on site unless you get extremely lucky. Palace isn't that fun either but at least it had some form of variety to it , pvp is far worse and more brain dead than potd currently.

[Risvertasashi]

Even with pvp maybe its me but its extremely boring to go into the same instance over and over again the same frozen tundra time after time.

I do pretty much agree with all of your post.

Although EXP for losing was just nerfed. But that kinda just makes it even worse on levelling DPS, especially in a 3 faction pvp where a balanced winrate would be 33%...